Don Sherfick

Ted Haggard "cured" - didn't you always really know it?

Filed By Don Sherfick | February 06, 2007 1:22 PM | comments

Filed in: Fundie Watch, The Movement
Tags: ex-gay, LGBT people, Ted Haggard

Well, I see today that one of four ministers who oversaw three weeks of intensive counseling for the Rev. Ted Haggard said the disgraced minister emerged convinced that he is "completely heterosexual." His homosexual liaisons were purely an "acting out", not the real Ted. Just going through a phase, I guess.

Wow....am I relieved! Now where did I put my shock therapy electrode kit?

Stand by for a new round of propaganda from the "Ex-Gay" crowd.


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Maybe he's not a meth head anymore either. It could be complete restart - like rebooting your computer back to specs. Cuz humans are just that easy to handle... *rolls eyes* Don't you kind of think that by now, they deserve each other? Pastor Ted and the fundies?

There once was a pastor named Ted
Who confessed he'd snuck out for some head
It was all very shady and not from a lady
But from (gasp) a young fellow instead.

But rejoice for now Ted's been redeemed
He's not really the faggot he seemed
Just a slight 'lectric shock and he's back in the flock
Guess it was just his coffee he creamed.

why are christians so obsessed with sex, gender and genitals.. it seems that blaming gays and lesbians is like almost a passtime and obsession for many christians. Don?t they ever worry about the real problems of the world, like hunger, poverty, war, disease , famine?

The bible is replete with admonishment about the sins of heterosexuals..in fact in old testamental times fornication and adultery was punishable by death?maybe we should reinstitute the death penalty for straight adulterers and fornicators ? hmmm stoning seems like an exciting sport - just ask the muslims where stoning of adulterers is still a rather exciting public entertainment ( i think i?m gonna throw up ).

christians used to demonize jews for centuries as jesus-killers and this embolden many ordinary germans to persecute jews leading to the holocaust. Similarly centuries of demonizing and denigration of gays and lesbians and sexual minorities have embolden otherwise morally bankrupt heterosexuals to discriminate and do violence to sexual minorities. This has got to stop. Christians are deluding themselves, if they really want to obey Christ then love God with all yr heart and immediately love your neighbour as yourself ..be they gay or straight. If you cannot practise this most important of all the commandments then you have no business declaring yourself a christian irregardless of how big your church or your choir or your coffer may be !

Oh..by the way Jesus said to the rich man..give up all your worldly goods and follow me! Did i hear any ?christians? dare to say AMEN LOL LOL LOL

Mikhail - a child of the intelligent Universe


Evangelicals and christians in general tend to be so obsessed with sex, gender and genitals to the point that you would think that morality = sex and nothing more. Why I suppose in an evangelical's mind a heterosexual drug dealer is "morally" superior to a gay philanthropist. Christians in general are guilty of being self righteous and are constantly pretending to "love the sinner but hate the sin" - as if they can really do that -hah.!!!

May I remind them that the oft repeated mantra of the modern pharasees - love the sinner but not the sin is not a quote from Jesus, but a glib semantic invention of some self righteous baptist minister.

Careful scholars of biblical texts who are familiar with the intricacies of ancient oriental languages are wont to not read their bias into isolated quotations.

Jesus had no problems with gays (natural eunuchs born of the mother's womb). If you are anti-gay or condemnatory of gay people than you are out of sync with Jesus.

This is what Jesus said:

KJV Matthew 19:12
12. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

No less an authority than Jesus said it is o.k. to be gay, and for you to accept it. Who do you wish to follow - Jesus (of Nazareth) or Jerry (Falwell).

For more detail discussion of this biblical position on the acceptance of gay people by no less an authority than JESUS - THE SON OF GOD , I refer you to this link :

http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/gaysJesus2.htm

Mikhail - a child of the intelligent Universe

Marla R. Stevens | March 6, 2007 3:29 AM

Seems that Jeebus has the same regard for lesbians as did Queen Victoria.

As for the eunuchs, are you saying that Jeebus was as likely to confuse sexual orientation and gender identity as your average bigoted Hoosier legislator?