Pam Spaulding

Ron Paul radio interview on homosexuality, sin and 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

Filed By Pam Spaulding | August 25, 2007 2:55 PM | comments

Filed in: Politics, The Movement
Tags: 2008 Election, Don't Ask Don't Tell, Ron Paul

GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul sat down with "Recovering Republican" and former Constitution Party presidential candidate John Lofton to talk about abortion, gays in the military, and other hot button issues on Lofton's radio show, The American View. You can listen to the interview here (head about 24:30). I transcribed some of it -- it's after the jump.

LOFTON: Do you believe it [homosexuality] is a sin?

PAUL: I have not...I'm not as judgmental about that probably because of my medical background, so I don't see it in those simplistic terms; I think it's a complex issue to decide whether it's sin or other problems with the way people are born. It's to me too complex to give an answer as simple as that.

LOFTON: Do you believe that God says it is a sin?

PAUL: Well, I believe a lot of people understand it that way, but I think everybody's God's child too, so I have, you know, trouble with that.

LOFTON: Well, actually everyone's made in the image of God, but not everyone's a child of God. Some of them are children of the devil...

Paul is then asked about Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Lofton first goes into a fairly lengthy diatribe about how all sinners need to be booted from the military.

LOFTON: We'll try to stop anyone from getting in the military who is a homosexual, who is an adulterer, who is a fornicator, and then other categories that indicate a character flaw. Why we shouldn't try to do that?"

PAUL: Looking it in protecting the military if they are going to perform the services, and they are imperfect -- because we're all imperfect and we all sin. If a heterosexual or homosexual sins, that to me is the category of dealing with their own soul. Since we cannot have only perfect people going in the military I want to separate the two because I don't want to know the heterosexual flaws, nor the homosexual flaws and that's why I got in some trouble with some of the civil libertarians because I don't have any problem with Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Because I don't think that, for the practicality of running a  military, I'd just as soon not know every serious thing that any heterosexual or homosexual did, and those flaws have to do with all our flaws because each and everyone one of us has those imperfections.

This is ridiculous. Again, heteronormativity blinds Paul to the fact that gays don't want the repeal of DADT to have sex in the barracks -- gays and lesbians simply do not want to hide their orientation. Heterosexuals serving our country are able to speak openly about their lives -- a partner back home, for instance, without fearing that they will be kicked out of the military. Heterosexuality, and the culture that surrounds it, is everywhere, presumed and affirmed.

BTW, Lofton goes on to say that "God will not bless an army or a military that is full of unrepentent, practicing homosexuals, and adulterers and fornicators."

Hat tip, Nick S.


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I've never heard of John Lofton before, but obviously he is one judgmental, dogmatic jerk. And Ron Paul does not impress me here that much either, because he weasel-words his way around this landmine and that one, instead of just saying what he thinks.

Ron Paul is not likely to be our next President, and damn, am I glad!

Given the choices we have on 08 Paul makes the most sense when you address the positions he holds issues that really matter. Things like getting out of Iraq, the economy and the growing police state we are living in. To judge any presidential candidate on just Gay and Lesbian issues alone would be wrong and very narrow minded.
Gay and Lesbian rights issues have little effect in the daily lives of most Gays and Lesbians. Even Post-Transition females like myself have little or no trouble in our day-to-day lives regarding LBGT rights.
This issue shouldn’t even figure into the selection process for a president in my opinion.

Sue

Good for you Sue! Looking at the larger picture here would be appropriate. Dr. Ron Paul isn't a judgmental ass like Lofton, he simply wants the federal government out of our business. He's a strict Constitutional supporter who understands all too well how our rights are being chipped away at on an hourly basis. While we were asleep at the wheel, the Bush cartel were in stealth mode moving insidiously behind the scenes.

Many people who look at Ron Paul are looking for some definitive answer on a specific issue and often they misinterpret his position. For example he's pro-life, but he's not saying we all MUST be pro-life. He's simply saying that the federal government needs to get it's big nose out of our affairs. Downsizing the federal government and putting more authority into the state's hands is what he's advocating. Then, the people who are looking for more definitive answers on specific issues will have MORE CONTROL to change the state's position rather than the federal government's.

Besides, as a presidential candidate, he's the ONLY man with a plan! Everything he says makes sense; from economics to CFR to the federal reserve - and he hit's the issues head on with intelligence, compassion and ethics. He's also the only candidate who hasn't stepped into the mud arena and start slinging. He's got waaaay too much class for that. He's a true gentleman and I can't imagine a lie coming out of his mouth. Can we honestly say that for any other candidate? I think not. Dr. Paul is by far the very best thing that could happen to us given the trouble we're in.