Alex Blaze

STFU and deal with it, fundamentalist Christianity is America's religion

Filed By Alex Blaze | December 19, 2007 7:06 AM | comments

Filed in: Fundie Watch, Living, Politics
Tags: Barack Obama, Christian beliefs, Christmas, Donnie McClurkin, Mike Huckabee, Pat Robertson, politics, religion, Ron Paul, secularism, separation of church and state, War on Christmas

I didn't mention this last week when it passed, but anyone interested in maintaining a secular state would probably be frightened/annoyed by this resolution.

The same House that can't be counted on to do much of anything for actually repressed minorities passed this Christmas resolution, 372-9, on the 11th:

Whereas Christmas, a holiday of great significance to Americans and many other cultures and nationalities, is celebrated annually by Christians throughout the United States and the world;

Whereas there are approximately 225,000,000 Christians in the United States, making Christianity the religion of over three-fourths of the American population;

Whereas there are approximately 2,000,000,000 Christians throughout the world, making Christianity the largest religion in the world and the religion of about one-third of the world population;

Whereas Christians Christians and Christianity have contributed greatly to the development of western civilization;

Whereas the United States, being founded as a constitutional republic in the traditions of western civilization, finds much in its history that points observers back to its Judeo-Christian roots;

Whereas on December 25 of each calendar year, American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birth of their savior, Jesus Christ;

Whereas for Christians, Christmas is celebrated as a recognition of God's redemption, mercy, and Grace; and

Whereas many Christians and non-Christians throughout the United States and the rest of the world, celebrate Christmas as a time to serve others: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives--

(1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world;

(2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide;

(3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith;

(4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization;

(5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and

(6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world.

Since nearly everyone in the House voted for it, I suppose this is the "bipartisan cooperation" the media tells us we're looking for right now.

I really don't see the point of having to pass a resolution like this other than the fact that a Republican presented it and everyone else in the House was too scared to say "no." Yes, there are a lot of Christians in America, but this is a big-time "We fucking own this country" move meant to let the rest of us know who's in charge, what with its specific Religious Right framing, claiming that Christianity itself is the cause of everything great that we see around us now, and direct use of Christians-as-victims rhetoric.

Eric Leven posted the Christmas Huckabee ad earlier this week, which trumpeted how Huck was tired of talking politics and he just wanted to say "Happy Birthday, Jesus." Does he really expect anyone to believe that?

Steven Benen points out that this is probably the first TV campaign ad ever to use the word "Christ" - even Pat Robertson didn't do that when running for president in '88.

Feel surreal, folks, you were watching history in the making.

This is part of his larger campaign strategy - notice I'm a preacher, don't notice that I'm completely unqualified for the job of president. He's been doing everything from quoting the Bible in debates to picking on Romney's Mormonism. He knows he can't win on merits. Then again, who needs merits anymore?

It's not just Huck, Ron Paul's been surging when it comes to fund-raising, and the boy can't shut up about "natural rights" bestowed upon us by the "Creator." Romney just gave a highly publicized speech about how he'll stomp all over the separation of Church and State. Giuliani's dropping the "sin" word like there's no tomorrow to atone for his spotty past.

And this is all in the past two weeks.

The Democrats aren't helping anything; only 9 reps voted against the above House resolution.

I don't need to post again here about Obama and McClurkin, but one thing that stuck with me from the justification of the event by Obama supporters was that the only way to talk to evangelicals was with religion. Not religion as it relates to politics, not religion justifying political positions. Just unadulterated, apolitical religion. Tell 'em the candidate is pretty much the second coming of Christ, wink, and they'll vote for whatever rube's in front of them.

Digby says:

Get used to it folks. And it won't be just the Republicans. The Democrats are preaching like crazy out on the stump too. It's the new reality.[...]

I'm afraid we are going to have to see that played out in ugly fashion before this explicit religious proselytizing masquerading as politics will fade back to the more generally soothing bromides like "may God bless the United States of America" with which nobody except the most vociferous absolutists have a problem.

I understand how Democrats are trying to show up to the party that put GWB in office, albeit late and rather awkwardly. You know, get religion right when they haven't been able to for so long.

But when the campaign pander turns into the policy pander, we have a problem. The issue is a lot deeper than a few words here and there from the candidates and Huck yammering away, it's about who's in charge and who our politicians are afraid to piss off.

And that doesn't bode well for gays, because, who are we going to go vote for if the Democratic candidate throws us under the bus once again? Sure, that logic can be used on the other side to justify both parties going secular (where would people who need to hear their president talk about Christ go?), but that just doesn't happen. We're the ones who get stiffed.

But there's no sense complaining. Being someone who's actually afraid by where this game could end up and speaking about it will just get you labeled as one of those people who doesn't get it, who just wants to be "hermetically sealed" from the "faith community". STFU, dude, you're embarrassing us as we try to pander to those evangelicals who can't be trusted to think about real issues.

All the while the pandering never comes the other way. America drifts right-ward with all the "serious" pundits telling us how strongly whatever Jesus reference is going to play with those evangelical rubes until people just get plain sick of hearing Jesus used as a tool to shore up votes and realize that there is something to the separation of church and state.

We'll have to wait a while for that to affect the government, though, since politicians always seem to be two steps behind the American people.


(I'm not knocking candidates who want to talk about their religion, or candidates who want to explain how their religion informs their policy positions, or anything like that. The problem is when God-talk becomes a substitute for policy discussion, as it has in a moderate degree in the Democratic Party, a large degree in the Republican party, and an epic degree in the Huckabee campaign.)


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Eek! This sounds exactly like the propaganda the fundies keep pushing for, I wonder who *really* wrote it? Their majority being persecuted, founding the country (pay no attention to the history books), that everyone here is de facto supservient to them because they are the majority, and so on. Did anyone else notice that christmass (which is at least partly non-religious, although not totally) got little airtime, but Christianity was mentioned in virtually every paragraph?

After ENDA, yet another reason not to reelect *any* incumbent except those that voted 'no' to both measures.

Zach Adamson | December 19, 2007 7:56 AM

Yikes.. If you change a few of the words in there it might look something like what you'd see coming out of Tehran. These Sheite Christians are getting out of control.

Even worse, Kara, is the part that got cut out:

Whereas Christians identify themselves as those who believe in the salvation from sin offered to them through the sacrifice of their savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and who, out of gratitude for the gift of salvation, commit themselves to living their lives in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Bible;

Way to include the Catholics there, folks!

It's outright preposterous how a country that had separation of the church and state in its constitution from the get-go tramples all over it, while many countries who do not are actually far more secular.

It's not just about policies being made, it's about the people. America is the most church-attending country out of the developed set. The way it has fallen behind other countries in terms of social progress is rather disappointing. The only thing the U.S. had going is financial might, and even then we are losing that,too.

The late author M. Scott Peck (The Road Less Traveled was his most famous book) stated in one of his lesser books (I'd have to look it up) that the true meaning of the word Blasphemy is not using curse-words or even yelling "Jesus Christ!" when you hit your fingers with a hammer. According to Peck, the true meaning of blasphemy is when you abusively utilize the Word of God to manipulate people for an earthly, selfish cause. For example, a preacher who gives a rousing sermon, then collects money supposedly for the poor, and then goes out with the money and buys a mansion and a new Mercedes --- that's true blasphemy.

One doesn't need to ponder this definition long before seeing that (1) in general, the current American public forum is dripping with blasphemy, and (2) specifically, the RR is all about blasphemy: obtaining and maintaining earthly political power by misuse of God-talk.

Even setting aside the way this corrupts America's political life, their religious hypocrisy and the way they are corrupting their own religion itself is truly amazing. Here they claim to follow a man who is reported to have responded, in a situation of almost unimaginable duress, "My Kingdom is not of this world" ... and they use his legendary birthday and his reputation to insist specifically that this world is their kingdom ... and theirs alone.

Finally, I must add: (3) that Hitler used exactly the same tactic to start World War II --- ironic indeed, considering how many of these zealots are WW-II veterans, or their children and grandchildren.

Frightening. Very frightening.

It's outright preposterous how a country that had separation of the church and state in its constitution from the get-go tramples all over it, while many countries who do not are actually far more secular.

Truer words haven't been typed, Lucrece.

There are a lot of people whose views encompass destroying the constitution and enacting a theocratic dictatorship. The legal name for that is treason. Additionally there are a lot of politicians who pander to that sentiment. Their views are disgraceful and an embarrassment.
This resolution is not in and of itself a theocratic “Enabling Act.” (1) However the Democrats have joined their Republican cousins to pass dozens of dangerously reactionary laws by huge bipartisan majorities.

They passed the Paytriot act which does to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights what Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi did to ENDA. The legal name for that is rape. Recently Dianne Feinstein and the Democrats pushed through the appointment of homobigots to head the Justice (sic) Department and put racist/lesbian basher Leslie Southwick on the US Sixth District Court of Appeals.

These grubby politicians are hand puppets for the super rich. They support the resource wars that are costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and likely to spread. They’re responsible for the mismanagement of the economy and infrastructure which will impose very heavy burdens on working people.

As the economic situation worsens it’ll unleash the suppressed anger and frustration of people who’ve suffered a 30 year drop in their standard of living. It will splinter and fracture US society and scare the pants off the rich. Then they may go for an authoritarian theocratic solution.

The rape of ENDA woke up a lot of GLOBT activists. The Democrats betrayals after the election will wake up everyone else. We have to be ready to embrace the influx of activists who’ll be leaving the Democrats and Republicans’ and looking for a real alternative.

(1)The Enabling Act was passed by the Reichstag) on March 23, 1933 and signed by Hindenburg the same day. The Act enabled Hitler to enact laws without the participation of the Reichstag. In German it was Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich and in English the Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Nation.

lol... when was 2 billion a majority in the world...out of roughly just over 6 billion.....also out of the 315 ish million Americans i highly doubt 225m are actually Christian. If so i know at least for a fact that number isnt rising and if anything creeping slowly down the rise of New Age religion, Islam, Atheist or Agnostic. or others. Its already hit its hey day and its slowly losing its grip.