Mercedes Allen

ZOMG! They Banned the BIBLE!!!!!!!!!111111

Filed By Mercedes Allen | July 03, 2008 10:00 AM | comments

Filed in: Fundie Watch, Living, Politics
Tags: Bible, Colorado, fundamentalism, hate crimes against LGBT people, hate speech, WorldNetDaily

Yes, it's true. That is, World Net Daily has sounded the panic alarm once again:

"Section 8 of Senate Bill 200 is a wide open door for any judge to censor anything that condemns homosexuality, including Scripture," Lundberg [state Rep. Kevin Lundberg] said at the news conference. Section 8 is headlined, "Publishing of discriminative matter forbidden."

"I do believe that the Bible is banned, under the plain language of this new statute," said Steve Crampton, general counsel of Liberty Counsel.

If you can't beat them, make up a whole bunch of persecution stuff to win sympathy. With the passing of SB200 in Colorado despite a massive attempt to strike fear in the hearts of all at the thought of the transgender boogeyman using a washroom, the right is now going into defensive mode.

Don't get me wrong: I don't hate Christianity, although I don't subscribe to any form of it currently established by any organized faith. I respect the intentions of the person the church claims to emulate, but when I look at a person who preferred the company of the poor, homeless, vagrants, prostitutes and tax collectors (I didn't make that up!) and then look at how that message has been turned by a small elite into one of hate, submission, marginalization, power to a select few, and control of the masses, I have to scratch my head in puzzlement.

The Bible, of course, is not going anywhere. It was (and on occasions is) used to justify racial discrimination and slavery, and survived the legal dismantling of those institutions (although legal dismantling of racism and actual societal dismantling of racism are two different things). It was -- and still often is -- used to justify the subordination of women, and it survived the legislation passed that asserts gender equality. No law enforcement officer in their right (or even left) mind is going to arrest someone for possession, production or sale of a Bible.

This is a pattern I know well from growing up in a Fundamentalist household. There's this environment of paranoia and terror created in people, keeping them in perpetual panic: the devil becomes an entity living in everyone and everything that lurks waiting to do everything he can to destroy the believers and the idols they cleave to. "OMG, we've thwarted the separation of church and state by infiltrating the state, but we're so persecuted!" It's an effective fundraising tool. I lost my mom to WorldNetDaily. They must be proud.

(Incidentally, I don't know how "oh my god!" turned into "ZOMG!!!111" either, but I see that bandied about with as much maturity as the things that come from the panicmongers.)

As for the Fundies, they will obviously go on painting themselves the righteous "underdog" champions in order to paint themselves to be the deserving bastions of morality. Says Steve Curtis, American Right To Life Action president:

"We will go ahead and continue to violate [the law]," he said. "Our challenge to the governor is go ahead and issue the citation, arrest us, do whatever you want."


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Robert Ganshorn Robert Ganshorn | July 3, 2008 10:32 AM

A small correction, Christ never met Saul, the tax collector, later Paul the most prolific "evangelical" that ever corrupted a faith. A game of mine is to show a Christian a picture of Da Vinci's "Last Supper" and have them point out which one is Paul to me. And the woman on Christ's right hand everyone is trying to say is a man.

The bible has gone a lot of places. Find the book "Misquoting Jesus." The bible itself is a political manifesto. At least, according to the head of the department of religion, University of NC at Chapel Hill.
Thank you for your posting Mercedes

It pisses me off to see these lies spread in Christ's name. Every. Single. Time.

Since it looks like the fundies are going to keep attacking this law for the foreseeable future, I think it's important to point out that this is not "new" legislation. SB200 simply updated Colorado's existing public accommodation law to add sexual orientation and to update some other language in the bill.

Challenging this law means challenging long-standing legal protections based on race, religion, gender, age, etc. as well.

I think that is some of what is really getting the fundies riled up...SB200 added us as a protected class to existing legislation (which protects them too) rather than being a stand-alone bill giving us "special rights". When their attacks on Colorado's anti-discrimination laws, if successful, effect more than just gay and trans people, I think it puts their bigotry in the proper light and will bring more people to our defense.

Thanks for posting this, Mercedes. The louder they complain about not being able to legally discriminate against people based on their religious beliefs, the more ridiculous they will continue to appear to average Americans.

It pisses me off to see these lies spread in Christ's name. Every. Single. Time.


Amen, Bil!
I believe in Jesus Christ. But I am not a Christian.

Actually, the tax collector in question was Matthew.

I agree that Saul / Paul made the first major detour in that faith. All of a sudden, the message of peace and turn the other cheek turned into "put on the whole armor of God," stuff about the "sword of righteousness," etc. Good ideological fodder for Crusaders.

The sad thing is that the flock believes this stuff, wholeheartedly. I remember back in the 1970s, my mom was telling me how someday the antichrist was going to send his soldiers along and they'd take away our Bibles and put us in concentration camps for possessing them. Everything new is old again. *yawn*

Robert Ganshorn Robert Ganshorn | July 4, 2008 12:31 AM

Mercedes, thank you for the illumination, but the problem remains that the "gospel of Matthew" was ghost written many years after his death.

Does make one wonder though how long this house of cards can prop itself up?

You sang it in Sunday school. So did I:

Tell me the stories of Jesus, I love to hear. Things I would ask him to tell me If he were here. Scenes by the wayside, Tales of the sea, Stories of Jesus, Tell them to me.

The thing is, have you read the Gospels? Was there one single verse when Jesus tells of a scene by the wayside? Does he tell a single tale of the sea?

What did Jesus talk about on every single page of the Gospels?

Religion. And himself.

That's a pretty good definition of religious fanatic.

He never talks about real things and real people. He talks so little about his own apostles that even today we don't know all their names. What did he say about his own family?

Was he the kind of guy you'd want to hang out with who nd what did he care about besides himself and his message?

Blighting the fig tree, swiping corn from somebody's field on the Sabbath, taking a whip to temple officials, horse theft? Condemning every last man, woman and child ever born and ever to be born to an eternity of agony and torment?

No doubt, we want Jesus to have been a better, more humane, more human person than Ayarolllah Khomeini.

But search all four Gospels: where's the evidence he was?

I knew a woman whose father was an alcoholic who was never there for her. Yet she adored him. As we talked we figured he was such a blank in her life that she filled in the things she wanted him to be and called that her father.

Is that what we're doing with Jesus?

The thing is, have you read the Gospels? Was there one single verse when Jesus tells of a scene by the wayside? Does he tell a single tale of the sea?

Um, yes.

Scene by the wayside = The Good Samaritan parable
Tale of the sea = Walking on water and calming the sea

And as for "real things and real people," I'd say Mercedes summed that up quite succinctly:

...when I look at a person who preferred the company of the poor, homeless, vagrants, prostitutes and tax collectors (I didn't make that up!) and then look at how that message has been turned by a small elite into one of hate, submission, marginalization, power to a select few, and control of the masses, I have to scratch my head in puzzlement.

Those all sound like real people to me. Which, to me, was the entire message of Christ. Help the people and not the institutions.