[rumor]Pigs Fly![/rumor]

Did you see that she charged Alaska citizens for rape kits if they reported the crime to police? Add to that her refusal to let a raped woman have an abortion and I'm smelling a rightwing nutjob that could care less about women who have been raped.

Ricci,
I recently heard a new nickname for Palin. "Caribou Barbie."

LMFAO! Good one, Monica!

No offense but I think there are plenty of other reasons not to vote for McCain/Palin and to vote for Obama/Biden than Palin's stance on abortion. I am a firm supporter of a woman's right to choose. However, there is such a long list of items about McCain/Palin and the Republican Party's platform that are frightening that Palin's position on abortion shouldn't have that much of an impact on voter's. If the Democrats can't make a strong enough case on why they should be in the White House regardless of Palin's views on abortion then they don't deserve to win.

John,
While i would love to go back to my youthful days when campaigns were decided based on reason and logic based arguments, the reality is the Repugs have changed the game because they know they can't win with reason and logic based arguments.

They have to turn it into the equivalent of a WWE wrestling match.

The bottom line is that we have to get Obama/Biden ELECTED first before we can change this country. We can't afford to have any part of our rainbow coalition sitting on the sidelines pouting because the Repugs have the easier task of solidifying a monoracial base.

I dont care whether Obama's electoral vote total is barely past 270 or is a landslide blowout, just as long as he wins on November 4 and he's taking the oath of office on January 20.

I see that no one is listening to Barrack Obama.Everybody is concentrating on the spin not the issues.One spin thing I'm curious about is whether she took maternity leave after the birth of her son Trig or if she just whipped him out and went back to work.My sister is a retail executive with a larger customer base then the population of Wasilli and she just had a baby and is going to take seven weeks maternity leave and is dreading having to leave the baby with a caretaker to go back to work.Other than that I think everyone would be wise to start calling out the McCain Palin ticket out on the issues because that's where Obama and Biden shine.

Ricci, come one!

You know what happens when you tell other people about a rumor you don't want spread -- you spread it yourself! :)

Hold tight, everyone. No one said winning this election would be easy.

Someone, quite possibly someone on Bilerico, recently referred to Palin as the GOP's Fog Machine. Here, here! The only problem is they're creating much less of the fog than we are! And I've contributed it to it, too.

But now that we've all had our collective freak out about the monstrosity of values and positions she represents, let's get focused and get this business of NOT electing McCain/Palin done!

Meanwhile, didn't some inspirational Democratic figure once say something about only having to fear fear, itself? ;)

"Is anyone here educated enough to realize that overturning Roe v Wade will NOT outlaw or restrict abortion?"

That's a very disingenuous statement. There is no question that the overturning of Roe v. Wade will lead to both the outlawing and restricting abortions. If you want to try to refute my statement, give it a whirl. But using semantics will not be convincing.

"It is totally consistent for a person to oppose abortion, oppose the constitutionally groundless Roe v Wade, and ALSO to oppose restrictions on abortion."

It may be consistent for a person who opposes abortion to oppose Roe v. Wade (although not necessarily). But fortunately, we're not supposed to vote on civil rights (for the most part) in this country. So they don't get a say.

As for your constitutional assessment that the Roe decision is groundless, the right to privacy is the law of the land, and will only change if idealogues are placed on The Court for the purpose of overturning it.

"What that person WOULD have to support is the right of the people of individual states to decide whether they will live in an abortion state or not."

The same people who oppose Roe also oppose individual states allowing abortions. So while this might seem like a high-minded philosophical states rights issue, it's a red herring. The right wing will never give up until abortion is illegal in all 50 states. So, no, they wouldn't have to support states rights, either.

As far as living in an "abortion state" or not, strikes me very much like choosing whether to live in a Free State or a Slave State. Human rights aren't supposed to be popularity contests.

"Just like they can decide whether or not to live in a Drinking state or a Gambling state."

Why is it necessary to live in a place where everyone makes the same choices as you? If you don't want to drink or gamble, just don't do it. Are you afraid that without the imposition of law, you won't be true to your own convictions?

Roe isn't just about abortion. Without it, there is no right to privacy. And that means the government can outlaw sodomy, birth control, and any other personal behavior they dislike.

Actually, I would have thought the terrorist rumors and stuff would hurt Obama more.

It ain't Palin that could cost Obama the election, it 'small town values' voters who will not vote for an African-American no matter how qualified he is.

Maybe I could be an astronaut since I can see the moon from my backyard?

"Maybe I could be an astronaut since I can see the moon from my backyard?"

Heheheh! Good one. I can see horses from my house. Does that make me a jockey?