Alex Blaze

Colorado Republican and Democrat: No HIV screening for sluts!

Filed By Alex Blaze | February 26, 2009 10:00 AM | comments

Filed in: Fundie Watch, Living, Marriage Equality, Politics
Tags: Colorado Springs, Dave Schultheis, HIV/AIDS, slut-shaming

Colorado Senator Dave Schultheis (R-Colorado Springs) is opposed to HIV screening for pregnant women, because if a woman has HIV she's obviously a slut who deserves to die from AIDS:

"This stems from sexual promiscuity for the most part, and I just can't go there," he said.

"We do things continually to remove the consequences of poor behavior, unacceptable behavior, quite frankly. I'm not convinced that part of the role of government should be to protect individuals from the negative consequences of their actions."

He followed up the floor debate by saying he hopes babies get AIDS:

"What I'm hoping is that yes, that person may have AIDS, have it seriously as a baby and when they grow up, but the mother will begin to feel guilt as a result of that. The family will see the negative consequences of that promiscuity and it may make a number of people over the coming years ... begin to realize that there are negative consequences and maybe they should adjust their behavior. We can't keep people from being raped. We can't keep people from shooting each other. We can't keep people from jumping off bridges. People drink and drive, and they crash and kill people. Poor behavior has its consequences."

What a surprise that he's from Colorado Springs.

Fortunately, the bill passed. But the Democratic answer to Schultheis was pretty terrible, and they're after the jump.

Here's one of the bill's cosponsors:

HIV does not just come from sexual promiscuity, it comes from many other things -- contaminated blood, for one," fired back one of the bill's sponsors, Sen. Lois Tochtrop, after Schultheis spoke on the Senate floor.

You see, the folks who get HIV from contaminated blood deserve to live, unlike those sluts and faggots who were fucking anything that moved and deserve to die. Also, there is absolutely no space between "sexual promiscuity" and "sexual abstinence" - you're either the Virgin or the Whore, bitches. Get used to it.

Her comment is as offensive as Jesse Helms' opposing funding for HIV/AIDS prevention, research, and treatment on the grounds that it was only gay men who got the disease, until he found out that children could get it from their parents, and they're innocent, so they deserve help.

It's also as offensive as those folks who couldn't come up with a modicum of sympathy for a gay man who had HIV, but when Ryan White appeared on the stage, HIV from contaminated blood and all, suddenly people started listening.

Because he got HIV from "contaminated blood," and like all tragedies, the contaminated blood mechanism needs a villain. That villain is, of course, gay men, which is why we're banned from donating blood. Because there might be some people out there who don't deserve HIV who might get it if we donate blood, and we have to protect those people.

Even though blood is so thoroughly tested before it gets inserted into another person nowadays that there's a less than one in two-million chance of HIV getting through.

Not that we should let facts get in the way of a good slut-shaming session. Tochtrop, the Colorado Democrat, might not know that, though. She's a nurse, and it's not like that profession is at all related to the medical industry.

Tochtrop continues:

"What this bill will do and why it's so important to test the woman when she is pregnant -- if she is HIV positive, treatment is started immediately to protect the baby, the unborn baby," the Thornton Democrat, who is also a nurse, said.

Of course it's for the baby! How silly of us to think that the baby-making machine the baby resides in for 9 months before birth was actually a human being who might, I don't know, want to know if she has HIV. Obviously we only care about the unborn baby, who has the rights to free speech, due process, and gun ownership, instead of the baby-carrier, who has the rights to survive childbirth, drink orange juice, and not worry her pretty head about things like HIV.

Thanks, nurse!

Yeah, filled with nuts like these, Colorado isn't helping its image this week.

Although I will say that I give some credit to Schultheis, the Republican before the jump who hopes babies get AIDS, for his honesty. This is the basic reason Republicans oppose everything related to sex, from contraception to STD screening, from comprehensive sex ed to public health initiatives, from opening up marriage and marital rights to unmarried or nonheterosexual couples to giving domestic partner benefits: because they hope people learn that sex is dirty and wrong by being punished repeatedly.

Somehow, though, the force that has populated the Earth with 6 billion human beings has managed to survive the abstract logic games sexophobes of all stripes try to play with it.


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What a tragic exchange. I am appalled that people feel that it is ok to say such things.

We had a republican representative call for the "final solution" on the floor of the state legislature and yet no one is talking about it! He called for the death of GLBt people. He made no bones about it.

This is an international crime under the rules of the World Court. When an elected official makes such a statement as an elected official in an official capacity it is an incitement to violence.

Got a link? I haven't heard about the story, but I'd be willing to talk about it!

I hope this asshole is voted out of office immediately. If Buttars can face consequences in a backwater state, surely this jerk can.

Yes it is utterly contemptible, but it's also not illegal in the United States because we have freedom of speech. I'm not at all an expert on the topic, but I don't believe the World Court recognizes that right as sacrosanct as we do here in the US (nor, for that matter, does most of the rest of the world).

Considering what passes for acceptable political rhetoric and discourse in this country, what makes you think that even this would be considered crossing the line in some areas of this country?

Our best hope right now is to ride the wave of progressivism we're enjoying at the moment and hope (expect, anticipate) that things will get better as time goes on and opportunities for progress are taken advantage of.

Don't you get it people? We owe the Lord our effort to not fail his plan of salvation through sexual irresponsibility!

Because, as everyone knows, that bullshit is still prohibitive, even if we have the methods to circumvent the consequences that used to make them prohibitive!

Alex,

Was this about HIV or just more hate against GLBT people? I think the latter.

I want to comment about the hate and ignorance displayed by the Colorado legislators you mentioned, but I find myself with words inadequate to display my contempt for them.

These assholes simply cannot reconcile that men do love men and women do love women and it more often than not includes SEX. The whole SEX thing is vile to them as they cannot fathom two people who love each other making love. Obviously it serves their purposes to find someone to hate and revile as the politically vocal right-wing have always had someone to demonize whether it was Native Americans, Chinese, Japanese, African Americans, Hispanics, women or anyone different from themselves.

All we can do is call them out on their hate and keep working towards equality.

Thanks for sharing the story.