I recorded another Bilerico Radio show today, an LGBT Weekend Update.

The first part is an interview with Californians Against Hate's Fred Karger, who was subpoenaed this week in retaliation for his activism against NOM. He got into the work he's doing to expose breaches in the separation of church and state and to get some of these church groups investigated. We also talked about those on the right who want to keep donors' names secret - it's about more than sternly-worded postcards. And Fred would know - he was targeted for firing based on one of his political donations.

This is the third time I've talked with Fred for Bilerico, but the first on audio. He's always a pleasure to talk with because his focus stays on substance and getting results.

The second part is the roundtable. I talked ENDA with The Advocate's Kerry Eleveld, LawDork's Chris Geidner, Nan Hunter, and Jillian Weiss. It was intense - these are some of the smartest people following the ENDA debate on our side, and their observations on the role business will play in this process, how ENDA changed from 2007 to today (and not just gender identity protections), and the religious exemption. If you have even a passing interest in the law that will eventually be the first piece of LGBT civil rights legislation, it's worth listening to this discussion. [Update: Part II is working now.]