Waymon Hudson

WorldNetDaily: Uganda has it Right with Death for Gays

Filed By Waymon Hudson | February 19, 2010 2:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Fundie Watch, Living
Tags: Christian beliefs, Fundamentalists, Kill the Gays bill, Maggie Gallagher, Uganda, WorldNetDaily, WorldNutDaily

Yes, WorldNetDaily is a insane fundie site, peddling in birthers, birchers, and *fill in the blank*-phobes of every stripe. It's really no wonder they have the nickname WorldNutDaily.

Sometimes, however, you have to look at what they are saying, the impact it can have, and real world consequences. As insane as they are, they represent a very real segment of the population and are the natural outgrowth empowered by anti-LGBT movements and legislation.

With that said, I give you this scary bit of fundie nuttery from Molotov Mitchell. Note how it weaves in Martin Luther King Jr quotes and 'patriotic' language:

While WorldNetDaily may seem like a punchline to many of us who follow the sheer madness of rabid fundamentalist bigots, they are the most popular and widely read "Christian" site in the country.

This is isn't just some "Obama is a secret muslim terrorist with a Hitler mustache" rant. This is a widely read site supporting the murder of gay people. It is a popular Christian site giving political cover (and a slickly-made video) to the Ugandan "Kill-the-Gay" forces that are under mounting pressure to kill their odious anti-homosexuality bill.

How long do you think it will take for Pastor Martin "Porn Peddling" Ssempa to show this video at his next press conference or church gathering?

While people like Maggie Gallagher may claim they are "reasonable" and don't hate gay people, videos like this are the natural bookend of their dehumanizing, demonizing campaigns that paint LGBT people as predators out to get your children or deviant monsters bent on destroying the fabric of civilization as we know it. The two cannot be separated.

Joe.My.God. has a great breakdown of the rapidly increasing language of violence coming from the far-right:

Mitchell's ranting is yet another another example of the recent ramping up of violently anti-gay rhetoric from the Christianist right. The American Family Association thinks gays should all be imprisoned and forcibly subjected to "reparative therapy." The Family Research Council says that gays are inherent rapists who can't be trusted around soldiers. Mission America says that protecting gay kids from beatings in school is a fascist idea. And now a columnist from the most widely read Christian site in the nation is calling for us to be put to death.

"What Would Jesus Do", indeed...

For a great line by line breakdown of the video, check out LezGetReal's take on it.


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Truly, is the rest of the world in such perfect hands that now we have conquered disease, poverty, and homelessness so much that now we can put all this effort (and money) into eradicating homosexuals (and let's face it, folks, they mean homosexual men) from the human gene pool?

Truly, is the rest of the world in such perfect hands that now we have conquered disease, poverty, and homelessness so much that now we can put all this effort (and money) into eradicating homosexuals (and let's face it, folks, they mean homosexual men) from the human gene pool?

There are few things that make me more angrily nauseous than a bevy of logical fallacies mixed liberally with hyperbole, and layered with utter distortions of truth.

The evangelical Christian Soldiers, who know as much about Jesus as they do history, forever rely on misinterpretations and taking texts wholly out of context.

What the pseudo-conservative fails to grasp or would prefer to instead gloss over is that the view "George Washington hated homosexuals" is based on the dishonorable discharge of Lieutenant Frederick Gotthold Enslin.

Lieut. Enslin was literally drummed out of the Continental Army in the spring of 1778 for committing attempted "Sodomy" (a legally defined term) against a fellow soldier named John Monhort.

However, and regardless that people love to confuse words thinking their definitions are interchangeable, i.e. Republic/Democracy, Nullification/Secession, Sodomy/Homosexual, words and especially legally defined terms, have absolute meanings, and thus must be viewed with their appropriate definitions and in the context of the specific period in history.

"Sodomy" and the applicable laws as understood from an 18th century perspective, was not synonymous with Homosexual.

"Sodomy" was the forced act of anal penetration of an unwilling participate.

Thus if the term "Sodomy" was to mean homosexual in the context presented by "Molotov Mitchell, John Monhort would have been drummed out and dishonorably discharged as well, however he remained in service of the Continental Army.

Nevertheless, that reality of history falls far outside Molotov Mitchell's agenda and is thus jettisoned in favor of expedient logical fallacy.

A couple of small quibbles -

When he says "unless there's some passage in Scripture that I have missed where Jesus says 'I have come to abolish the law..." I'd like to refer him to Matthew 5-7: Christ's manifesto.

In Matthew’s record of what is commonly called the Sermon on the Mount, these words of Jesus are recorded: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

It is especially important to note how the word is used in Matthew 5:17. In this context, “abolish” is set in opposition to “fulfill.” Christ came “...not to abolish, but to fulfill.” Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment. Rather, He revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.

If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to men today, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today. Further, if the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ—and thus remains as a binding legal system for today—then it is not just partially binding. Rather, it is a totally compelling system. Jesus plainly said that not one “jot or tittle” (representative of the smallest markings of the Hebrew script) would pass away until all was fulfilled. Consequently, nothing of the law was to fail until it had completely accomplished its purpose. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus fulfilled all of the law. We cannot say that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system, but did not fulfill the other aspects of the law. Jesus either fulfilled all of the law, or none of it.

I'd also suggest looking up the history of the "Sodomite King" of Uganda who actually welcomed Catholic missionaries into the Kingdom. The left the country after the King wouldn't give them land and autonomy and came back to overthrow the government with the assistance of the King's servant. They didn't kill him for sexuality (that part of the story was added later), they did it for control of his wealthy country.

Ridiculous.

if you google hitler and god, or things like that, you will find a list of things that hitler said in his speeches.

And these almost perfectly fit the christian taliban nut cases, just replace jew with gay. You find the same talk about christian morality, protecting the human race etc etc.

Maggie gallagher and her kind should be locked up in an insane asylum. Until we can convene a Nuremburg trbunal number 2 to deal with her and her kind.

And Pope Benedict, who just last year UNexcommunicated a Bishop Williamson, who is a holocaust denier. to bring williamson's 600.000 followers back into the church that is largely ignored in Europe, while western Europe has gay couple legal recognition in every last country except Italy and Greece, with Ireland and portugal around the corner. And 15 other countries worldwide, including 5 in catholic south america.

If we had dropped one large bomb on the Reichstag in about 1935 when the nazis and their pals were in the place, WWII and 50 million deaths would have been avoided.

We need to deliver a message to uganda now. And if the International criminal court won't arrest and try Ratzi the Nazi, we have to find another way to solve his problem.

And the same for all fundamentalists- maybe a camp with Gebet Macht Frei over the gates. Prayer makes free. They deserve it. their own trip through what they did to the jews, the gays, the gypsies, the blacks etc.

T0 hell with all these genociders.

Read a book - "worse then war", by some Harvard professor. Its apt to come true again.