Bil Browning

Log Cabin: What are they smoking?

Filed By Bil Browning | September 21, 2010 6:30 PM | comments

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Tags: Don't Ask Don't Tell, gay Republicans, Harry Reid, Log Cabin Republicans, repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell

Proving once again that gay Republicans don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, Log Cabin put out the following statement after today's failed cloture vote in the Senate.exploding_head.jpg

The Log Cabin Republicans are troubled by the parochial political actions of Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) who has refused to compromise with Senate Republicans by holding a full and open debate on the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Rather than reaching a compromise allowing for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' to be repealed, the Senate has postponed action until after the election.

"Obviously, we are disappointed. Senator Reid failed to reach a compromise with Republicans and our military servicemembers will need to wait until the November elections are over for the US Senate to vote on a repeal." says R. Clarke Cooper, Executive Director, Log Cabin Republicans. "This partisan arrogance is an example of why voters will be turning away from Democrats on November 2nd."

That has to be one of the stupidest statements I've ever read. Harry Reid? Really?! I mean, if you're going to be a partisan organization at least castigate the two Democrats who voted against the LGBT community. After all, I'm sure they're not going to want to point the finger at every Republican who all voted against us - or the Republican who has led the filibuster to protest the repeal of DADT. But what the hell, they can't even use "parochial" in a sentence correctly...


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Bil Browning! Such language! Shocking!

If repeal of Bill Clintons DADT (and this rider is not repeal, it leaves military bigotry in the hands of the bigoted officer class) were offered as a standalone bill a lot more Democrats would have voted against it.

We need the repeal of Clinton's DADT and DOMA and the passage of ENDA or a tough CRA that includes us. DemocratDixiecrats can't and won't do that and neither will RepublicanTeabaggers.

Exactly right, Bill. It's hard to pinpoint the real script being followed by the Democrats right now, but it doesn't seem to have much to do with the merits of DADT repeal. Bil thinks the Log Cabin Republicans look foolish because of the unanimous GOP opposition. But Reid might have picked up a few GOP votes if he had allowed them to introduce and debate their own favorite amendments (unrelated to DADT). Instead, Reid chose to take a hard line.
I think the NY Times report supports the LCR's view of the charade. Here is the relevant Times paragraph:
"The outcome, at a time when Congress is increasingly paralyzed by the partisan fury of the midterm elections, was more a result of a dispute between Democrats and Republicans over legislative process than a straightforward referendum on whether to allow gay, lesbian and bisexual soldiers to serve openly."

We will probably get a slightly more honest vote after the elections are finished. Also keep in mind Obama is still threatening to veto the whole thing if $700 million in jet-engine money remains in the bill.
It's fun to beat up on the Log Cabin Republicans, I know, but at least their lawsuit has accomplished something on the DADT issue. What have the Democrats produced?

That's a little off, Tom.

As Rachel Maddow showed on last night's news, Reid didn't say no Republican amendments could be offered. In fact, he said the opposite. He stood on the Senate floor and said they could be offered as long as there wasn't just a mad rush of amendments to scuttle DADT repeal. (Who wants to debate 100 amendments all saying the same thing but with different words?)

He clearly said he wanted to get through the Democrat amendments first and then move on to any possible Republican amendments. Since that would have forced the Republicans to abandon McCain's filibuster, they chose not to do it that way.

As Maddow said, the claim that Reid wouldn't allow any amendments is "malarky" easily proven false by simply reading/watching what Reid actually said instead of falling for Republican talking points.

You're right-- they won't.

I agree with your point and analysis, Bill. Yet as I get older I'm convinced that our Congressional Houses are essentially incapable of deciding on issues of what are primarily moral issues. The back-dealing, the glad-handing, the pork barrell injections and the vote-swapping make the process repellant and insulting to these very moral problems facing our society. DADT is either morally wrong, or it isn't. How many bridges get built back in your district should have no bearing on it. I think the courts are the way to go; generally, less money changing hands, and a higher over-all IQ among the partipants.

It's not about Congress "deciding" anything. It is decided before they get there and that's what we saw yesterday. Lobbying, calling, emailing, faxing and protesting didn't change anything.

Senators pay attention to polling data in their States. 93% of the Senators that voted against DADT repeal are from States where more than 60% of their residents make religion "important."

Bob Schneider | September 22, 2010 10:16 AM

R. Clarke Cooper's ridiculous statement just proves that the only logs that the "Log Cabin Republicans" deal with, are the ones they take up their asses.

Yeah, they maintain that "The Republican Party is the only Party that can be trusted to support LGBTQ issues." Riiiight...and monkeys might one day fly out of my butt.

I think the Republicans chose to be accused of blocking DADT repeal over being accused of blocking the Dream Act.Our votes mean less to both Democrats and Republicans than the votes of illegal immigrants and Hispanics.

I called our Sen. Voinovich's (R-OH) office on Mon. It took most of the morning to get through..the lines were jammed. I finally got through and asked him to support the bill. The aide that answered said "Senator Voinovich hasn't made up his mind yet" I asked the aide how the calls were going and he said "99% in favor of the bill and repeal of DADT" So..basically Sen Voinovich ignored the people here in Ohio that he is representing and embraced partisan politics and homophobia. This is his last term. It is sad that his legacy will include being a bigot and someone who did not support the people that sent him to office. Shame on you sir..how can you sleep at night?

I called our Sen. Voinovich's (R-OH) office on Mon. It took most of the morning to get through..the lines were jammed. I finally got through and asked him to support the bill. The aide that answered said "Senator Voinovich hasn't made up his mind yet" I asked the aide how the calls were going and he said "99% in favor of the bill and repeal of DADT" So..basically Sen Voinovich ignored the people here in Ohio that he is representing and embraced partisan politics and homophobia. This is his last term. It is sad that his legacy will include being a bigot and someone who did not support the people that sent him to office. Shame on you sir..how can you sleep at night?

Make all the calls you want, 65% of Ohio residents are anti-gay because of religious beliefs. Voinovich has the polling data. No US Senator counts emails, phone calls or faxes. That's just silly.

They (politicians and others in the political industry) WANT you to believe that they value your input, but it is mostly ignored. They look at polling data to make their decisions.

You can accomplish a lot more by talking to neighbors, friend, co-workers and even strangers than talking to an aide in Voinovich's office. They probably even laughed and/or rolled their eyes after your call. Yeah, it's that bad.