Alex Blaze

McDonald's Beating Updates: Victim Identified, Cameraman Fired

Filed By Alex Blaze | April 23, 2011 4:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Politics, Transgender & Intersex
Tags: Baltimore, beating, Chrissy Lee Polis, Maryland, McDonalds, racial, transgender, transsexual

The police report has been released in the case of the woman who was beaten in McDonald's yesterday, although redacted. And the victim was identified as female in it. The Smoking Gun identifies her as Chrissy Lee Polis The police report says that the fight started as a "verbal argument" in the women's bathroom, and also says that the older woman who appears later in the video was punched in the face but did not seek medical attention.

The perpetrators were 14 and 18. The 14-year-old will be charged as a juvenile, while charges have not yet been filed against the 18-year-old as the state attorney's office reviews the case.

The guy who took the video and posted it on YouTube discussed it on Twitter (although his account appears to have been deleted):

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On Facebook (account also deleted), he repeats again that the fight started because the victim was transgender:

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McDonald's says that he's been fired and that "appropriate action" has been taken regarding the other employees:

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Their original statement, from yesterday, called the situation "reprehensible." Today, they say there's no room for violence in their restaurants:

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As Jake noted earlier, racists are eating this story up and trying to make it about black people beating a white person instead of cisgender people beating a transgender person. The Drudge Report tweets that sentiment:

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It's interesting that a conservative, cis, gay man's site would erase the transgender aspect of this story.

The state of Maryland does include gender identity in its hate crimes law, but, bizarrely, the state attorney is quoted in the Daily Mail saying that he's looking for a racial motivation:

State's Attorney Scott D. Shellenberger said hate crime charges were being considered.

'If there is evidence that the crime was racially motivated, we will take a look at those charges and see if we meet those elements. We have the ability, if the facts are there, to upgrade the charges at a later date,' Shellenberger said.

Local news in Baltimore has covered the story. Here are some reports.


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Thank you all for keeping with the updates.

I'm a little baffled, angry perhaps, at the level of attention race is playing into this story. It totally erases that this is, apparently, an example of anti-trans violence.

To me it seems that they want to find a way to explain this situation while maintaining privilege. "Black people are violent and attack poor white people" maintains privilege. "Trans people face violence that the law and society often ignore" attacks privilege. So the former is preferred.

That doesn't mean that we should prefer the latter right off the bat - the facts should come before the political message. But if the cameraman's comments are true, the latter story appears to be closer to the truth.

Om Kalthoum | April 23, 2011 6:02 PM

I think there's a simpler explanation. While the gender identity component resonates with us, for the vast majority of viewers who are not GLBT, it just wouldn't enter their minds. It's all too easy to view it as one white woman being attacked repeatedly by two black women, older white woman tries to help, black employees appear to do little to help. Given this scenario in America, people rush to view it through the lens of race.

It's pretty ironic that the TV media are mostly reporting this the way transgender activists have demanded. And by so doing (simply describing the victim as a woman), they prevent the casual viewer from understanding there might be a gender component to this conflict.

Perhaps that's a better explanation for some people, but don't think it applies to the people who've been leaving comments on the other thread or to Matt Drudge.

The victim herself said race might have played a factor.

a cis woman stepped in to stop the violence & got a black eye for it.

I think the mainstream media is now doing a better job of reporting this then the LGBT media. They aren't slapping labels on her they're correctly identifying her as female for now. Until she states an identity other than that no one should be trying to stick potentially unwanted labels on her. You'd think the LGBT community would no better than to do that by now.

When the reason for beating her was because she was "a man in the women's room" and "still had man parts," it's clear the crime was because she is a trans woman. It MUST be stated. The reason the mainstream press is omitting it is because it gives them a juicy race angle. Defending them for fomenting race hate is NOT cool.

Lysana,
She is a post-op woman and entitled to identify herself how ever she wishes. She even has a right to say that she is heterosexual and not a member of the LGBT community.At some point the LGBT community is going to claim the wrong person as a member and they will be handed their lunch for it. Communities are established by choice not by force you don't get to claim me as yours simply because I'm Transsexual nor do you have the right to label me transgender a term I find offensive because it says I'm seeking to become other than the woman I am.

I don't think the question whether she's trans or not is important, but the fact that it is a transphobic agression is.

I mean, even is she was a cis woman who was assaulted because they thought she was trans, that's still a transphobic agression.

Anja Flower | April 24, 2011 4:13 AM

It is relevant that this woman was beaten for being trans. It's not a matter of how she identifies - it's a matter of transphobes seeing her, figuring out that she's trans, and beating the shit out of her. It's important that she's trans because it's important for violence against trans people to be publicized, for people to be conscious of it when it happens. Some trans people choose to distance themselves from trans identity after transition, and that's fine, that's their choice - but it should't prevent people from publicizing the fact that trans people are getting beaten up for the "crime" of trying to use the restroom.

If it turned out that she were cis and the media got it wrong, the meat of the story would still be the same - she got beat up because the perpetrators *thought* she was trans.

I may not assume that the word "woman" means "cis woman," and you may not either, but we're trans - most cis people think and act as though trans people don't exist. If we're going to make the wider world at all aware of the oppression we face, we have to include her status as a trans woman in articles.

Also, what does this have to do with being straight? Gender =/= sexuality.

It is also relevant to state that labelling her as other than a woman is what "transphobia" in her case was about. The message being sent is wrong by the LGBT and transgender activists and is a contributing factor in misgendering her and the "Transphobia" or as I prefer to call them hateful actions towards her.It is sad when those who claim to have an interest in protections of your rights don't get it. Trans labels are transphobia of the worst kind self inflicted. I am a woman the only difference between myself and other women is that I was born with a medical condition.

I abhor violence in any form and was appalled. Having said that I also recognize that there is no video of the ten minutes preceding the violence. The attackers were obviously very hostile and to me it seemed they were terribly upset. I couldn't make out many words other than bitch but the venom was evident in their voices. My intuition tells me something other than "potty privileges" was the trigger that set off the attack. It could be any number of things including racist comments from the one who got beaten but whatever set it off remains unknown at this point.

Please don't jump down my throat. I think it was awful and I'm just saying I don't yet have a complete picture of what transpired. The partial picture is sickening but it is still only a piece of the scenario.

I won't jump down your throat. There is a lot here that we don't know. Anyone who wasn't there who pretends to have all the answers shouldn't be listened to.

What we do know is that the police and the AG are investigating, so we'll have more updates soon.

You're just being very smart and very careful. You'd be a good juror. : )

Yes, thank you for the updates!

They need to stop focusing on "racial motivations" and look at the REAL issue: transphobia. I think their trying to cover this as "racially motivated" is a) covering up the severity of transphobia and b)pitting the marginalized against the marginalized.

Stop talking about bogus "racial motivations" and start raising awareness about transphobia. Countless transfolks are beaten, raped and murdered ever year and it needs to end. Brandon Teena's murder occurred 20 odd years ago and it seems like not a lot has changed as far as awareness of transphobia and transgender issues since then sometimes.

Justin Fenton at the Sun reports that he as spoken with woman attacked at McD's. No updates on the Sunpapers website. Fenton's twitter is @justin_fenton

I cannot fault the way the press is identifying this woman. In the Baltimore Sun article it states clearly:

"Polis, who says she had a sex change operation to become a woman, is concerned that the public attention this has brought her could trigger more violence — and worries it could hurt her chances of getting a job."

Someone's surgery is someone's medical history. Assuming she is legally identified as female it really isn't anyone's business to go prying into her background. Someone's medical history is confidential information. This is mostly about someone being badly beaten who would have made things worse for herself if she had attempted to defend herself. She was beaten up because people didn't like the way she looked.

If it had been me rolling on that floor getting kicked repeatedly in the head, I would be angry to be described as anything but a woman. This shouldn't devolve into a test case for who should and shouldn't be able to use which restroom. A woman should not be threatened because she is in the women's restroom. How many here want to argue she isn't women, that her surgery didn't make her a woman? Whether one needs a sex change to become legally female is a whole different question. It's a question that has no place in this situation.

Whether or not there is more to the story than has been reported is entirely irrelevant. The video evidence shows clearly that the two attackers repeatedly re-initiated attacks against a person who was no longer able to defend herself. Nothing can possibly justify such an action.

It is very clear from the evidence that this attack was precipitated by the belief of the people involved that the young woman was not woman enough for their satisfaction, and felt justified in delivering punishment to her that is wildly out of the realm of legality, even if you were to stipulate that Ms. Polis was the initial aggressor, the which I highly doubt, even if the possibility cannot be ruled out.

Given the severity and repeated nature of their attacks, the attackers should be charged with attempted murder, violation of her civil rights, and any penalties assessed with the provisions of the Shepherd Hate Crimes Act in mind.

My heart goes out to this girl (TG or not). I wish I could have changed places with her for it would not have ended as it did one I got through with them and the trick recording it. Then folks wonder why people flip the script and buy guns and shoot up everyone in our schools, businesses. I'm just in disbelief that nothing was done - the male that tried could have done a lot more. So damn juvenile. Let a B#Q^^$ stop me from using the women’s restroom - she had a right to do so - Imagine what it would have been like if she went to the men’s restroom you stupid MF's. She has rights just like everyone else. Lord why it could not had been me?

What difference does it make if it's a black/white issue or gay/straight? Either way, these animals are just that, animals. No morals, no good upbringing, no manners, no education! Had this been about gay/straight, the two "ladies" could have asked the manager to escort the other out of the bathroom instead of their typical cursing and fighting. Wonder if their "parents" taught that's the way to settle their problems, with their fists, not their minds.

I don't know. Particularly in this instance, don't you think it would be better for her to simply be referred to as a woman and then refer to her circumstances as it relates to this situation? She lives in Maryland for crying out loud. Why give people the opportunity to judge whether she belongs in the woman's room or not when she is need of a restroom. Does her legal documentation define her as female or not? Do her most significant sex characteristics define her as female?

The questions of transgender vs. transsexual is not a matter of semantics in light of all the discussion of biological sex. Her primary, secondary and hormonal sex characteristics are decidedly female. Sex characteristics are relevant. Why are so many out of touch with this reality? Sense of self that is in contradiction with obvious physical sex characteristics can be acknowledged and protected without denying the obvious.

The distinction between gender and sex is not clear. It is very ambiguous. The definition of sex is not clear but the definition of gender is way too far into the realm of behavior. Transsexualism exists. It isn't an identity disorder, misalignment, incongruence, brain body contradiction, yes but I think it is more than just the brain that is incongruent for some people. The fact that things improve enormously for people with endocrine treatment and surgery is evidence it is a matter of biological sex.

What is the problem? Hate crime laws that create a need to other people in order to be enforced? As ButchCassidyke points out, they should be enforceable based on misperceptions if there going to be useful to everyone who might be in need of that kind of protection. Isn't most hate crime legislation worded to protect people according to how they are perceived as well as how people who are discriminated against self identify?

Whether or not this person was a woman in presentation as a woman and if she is transgendered she has a right to portray herself as a woman because thats who she thinks she is. And she is not a man in a dress she is a woman.
The two woman who beat her should be arrested and charged and given the maximum punishment under the laws. and any McDonald's employee from management to crew member allowed this to happen should be all fired on the spot. I hope this will give McDonald's a black eye for this. May this poor woman recover and get back on her feet and stand up for who she is.

Om Kalthoum | April 24, 2011 12:45 AM

Some relevant portions from this three minute interview:

Well, I wanted to go use the bathroom and the guy told me that I needed to order something before I had to use the bathroom. Well by the time I got there I was really needing to use the bathroom.

So a guy approached me, asked me how I was doing. So I said, “not now.” I wanted to go use the bathroom. Come back out, the girl spit in my face and she approached me, she says, “are you trying to talk to my man?” And I said, “no I didn't even know that was your man at all.” So the other girl came up, spit in my face. And they started ripping my hair, throwing me on the floor, kicking me in my face.

Then I got up and I tried to hit the other girl, like I had her in the corner to try to get her off of me and the other girl came up and started kicking me in my face, punching me in my nose, ripped my ear rings out of my ear lobes.


It wasn't clear to me exactly what she is referring to at the end, but maybe in the coming days she will clarify this:

And I'm really appalled about how all my charges have been brought on the internet. That has nothing to do with what the fight was caused...And you know they're just putting my information out there to completely...they put my whole government out there and I felt like it was wrong. It was really wrong. But really, to tell you the truth, though, they just seemed like they wanted to pick a fight that night. They really did.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-mcdonalds-beating-20110423,0,6955035,full.story

I don't know. Particularly in this instance, don't you think it would be better for her to simply be referred to as a woman and then refer to her circumstances as it relates to this situation? She lives in Maryland for crying out loud. Why give people the opportunity to judge whether she belongs in the woman's room or not when she is need of a restroom. Does her legal documentation define her as female or not? Do her most significant sex characteristics define her as female?

The questions of transgender vs. transsexual is not a matter of semantics in light of all the discussion of biological sex. Her primary, secondary and hormonal sex characteristics are decidedly female. Sex characteristics are relevant. Why are so many out of touch with this reality? Sense of self that is in contradiction with obvious physical sex characteristics can be acknowledged and protected without denying the obvious.

The distinction between gender and sex is not clear. It is very ambiguous. The definition of sex is not clear but the definition of gender is way too far into the realm of behavior. Transsexualism exists. It isn't an identity disorder, misalignment, incongruence, brain body contradiction, yes but I think it is more than just the brain that is incongruent for some people. The fact that things improve enormously for people with endocrine treatment and surgery is evidence it is a matter of biological sex.

What is the problem? Hate crime laws that create a need to other people in order to be enforced? As ButchCassidyke points out, they should be enforceable based on misperceptions if there going to be useful to everyone who might be in need of that kind of protection. Isn't most hate crime legislation worded to protect people according to how they are perceived as well as how people who are discriminated against self identify?

I'm sorry for the double post.

I would like to add that she says in the video she did try to defend herself. If she were an athlete able to qualify and compete in the olympics she would be considered biologically female. I think that is a very important consideration, rarely mentioned with all the emphasis on gender. In this situation, where she should be allowed to defend herself, how would it appear if the fact that she is biologically female were not made clear in a legal proceeding? Essentially, it would have the effect of her being portrayed as engaging in a physical confrontation as a man against a woman or women, when that really isn't the case. And if she were sexually assaulted? Well, there have been many stories about how that plays out.

tara rushing | April 24, 2011 3:23 AM

it's complete bullshit that the camera man says " it wasnt a girl, it was a guy dressed as a girl & had male parts, he went into the girls bathroom with the girls & when told not aloud to he got mouthy " Even if that WAS the case, no one deserves to get thrown to the ground, kicked in the head, have hair ripped out, punched, kicked, spat on & all this other shit, just because of the gender. it's fucking ridiculous. if i was there & saw this happening, i would grab them both by their fucking hair & drag them out the door. no one deserves to be treated like that. & considering one of the girls were 14... that's just ridiculous. i hope she see's this video, & all her little fucking friends see it. just so she/they can see what a selfish bitch she really is.

If a man went into the women's bathroom with a 14 year old girl, everyone would scream child molester. If he claims to be a woman, he gets supported. How does this work?

It may surprise you to learn that men who rape children (or adults) do not construct female identities, live full time as women, change their names, or engage in medical sex transition procedures in order to get in women's restrooms.

There would be no need for bathroom bills had the GLBT and the transgender activists not gone around painting targets on all of us.

For 20 years or more all this out and loud activism has culminated in one unmistakeable truth, activism has made things worse for every transsexed person in the world.

Laws and accomodations for transsexuals have been rescinded eveywhere, our legal marriages challenged in courts, our right to exist peacfully among our target gender has been reduced to ashes.

No I am not angry at McDonalds, or even the 2 hood girls that did the beating, I am mad at the GLB and the trans activists, for dragging transsexuals under your umbrella and by association making all of us the "Men in Dresses" that we hear so often in these cases.

I had my surgery over 25 years ago, and there but for the grace of god go I, to be the next target of opportunity for some a$$hole that may think I am packing in the meat department. I am married, and there but for the grace of god go I, that someone with a grudge would have my marriage anulled, reduce my marriage to same sex status, and for what?

What do you think these laws will do for the average trans women huh? do you really think that people will think twice about kicking them in the head?, firing them from their job, refusing to serve them in a restaurant? Grow up!

I hate to burst ya'lls bubble but the vast majority of us never had to consider this until ya'll came along and painted targets on us by constantly bringing us into the media, by creating awareness of us.

The one major right we all need is to be left out of your damned politics. Fat chance that is going to happen, and even if it did, the damage has been done and will take decades to be undone. We never had a problem until ya'll created it! Now we have wall of trangender dead.

Thanks a lot!

Leigh,

Whether we like it or not, some of us lead (personal) lives that are political.

Yes, it's not always comfortable but I think your anger is misdirected.

Leighs frustration isn't misdirected it is time for the LGBT to fess up to its part in creating this mess.Certain LGBT groups and transgender groups have created a hostile environment and I think purposefully to prevent any vocal opposition to their positions.It is time for this to stop and time for us to stand up for ourselves.The mainstream media is starting to take notice and it is only a matter of time before this blows up in their faces no matter how many transsexuals the claim as being on their side.

no, femme, i don't think Leigh's anger is misdirected in this case.

It isn't like I would be able to join in with Leigh on most occasions. I am a cliche - the overbearing white late middle age late transitioner. I have to laugh at all the mischaracterizations of this person who has been outed. I know the feeling. I have no choice but to be outed. I have no choice about being mischaracterized either.

This person is young, though. She carries none of the guilt that is heaped upon my shoulders from all quarters. I think it is important to understand she didn't have SRS and transition to become "a transsexual" much less "transgender". Remember the quote from the article:

"Polis, who says she had a sex change operation to become a woman, is concerned that the public attention this has brought her could trigger more violence — and worries it could hurt her chances of getting a job."

What obligation does she have to be made any less than that in order to further someone's political ends and, even worse, their political ambitions?

That's funny, 'cause I remember 25 years ago, and back then I saw transsexuals on talk shows being called freaks and held up for ridicule. And at that same time I got threatened with violence and people telling me I would always be a man no matter what surgery I had. Oh, and my own family comparing me to the guy from Silence of the Lambs. And that would be a good ten years before I even heard the word "transgender".

But no, I guess it must be those GLB activists' fault.

I guess you don't remember how compassionate people like Phil Donahue and Sally Jesse Raphael were about these issues.They were taking us in the direction we needed to go.Then some bullys came along and decided they didn't like the compassionate message. Yeah I remember the frustration the first time I became aware of the transgender message. I also remember seeing the change in message being sent out in talk shows. The introduction of club kids to America. Springer gaining in popularity and now people saying as a trasgender community we are not trying to fit medically into this.The message got hijacked and its time we take control of it back by from those who serve no one but their own agenda.

Riiiight, it was totally the transgender activists controlling the "message" sent out to the talk shows, not at all the talk show hosts taking advantage of people's bigotry. A bigotry that I mentioned I've seen in person, before the "transgender message" became popular. Stop making excuses for hateful cis people.

So are you saying they were right SAS that you are the same as being gay? That is the message I see as being lost by the use of the word transgender we are not the same as being gay. We are not the same as being a crossdresser. We are not what other people think they have the right to label us. Most of all and I would hope you would agree with me on is that we are human beings and as such we have a right to different opinions and associations.Also that right extends to LGB's, Crossdressers and anyone else. No one should have their identity marginalized by those who claim they know better, when in fact they don't, even though they should from past experiences.

But you also aren't a "heterosexual" woman....it's amazing what labels folks want to pick for themselves, while looking down on others....lol

Sorry but I don't associate associate Phil Donahue or Sally Jesse Raphael trying to put out a positive message as feeding cis hate towards transsexuals or any other group trapped under the transgender label.Twenty five years ago I don't remember the outright level of contempt towards us I see today. No it wasn't perfect back then but the tone was much more civil.

Leigh, you aren't the first person in history to be concerned that you might be "outed" when you have successfully been "passing" for so many years.
But then again I always wonder why stealthy Trans people still want to post in venues like this.I doubt if anyone will quit fighting for GLBT rights because it inconveniences people who are under the radar.My suggestion would be just to stay under the radar.

"Just stay under the radar - Darya

What the heck is that supposed to mean Darya? I wouldnt say that Crissy looked particularily male in the video interview .. would you?

How about Nikki Aruguz in Texas .. Staying under the radar didn't help her one bit when circumstances forced her to be outed.

That's the problem, this is not just affecting those who don't pass any more. Even legitimate and natural born females are being questioned and ejected from bathrooms for being too un-womanly looking. Everyone is suspect now.. everyone!

As for posting in venues like this, unlike many of you that blame society for their bigotry, I don't see it that way. I blame ya'll for creating the issue where none existed. So yes, I am delivering my mesaage to the LGBT mailbox, right where it belongs!

Sheesh...

Leigh would you mind if I repost your comment to my facebook page?

amym .. Be my guest :)

Darya for years I've listened to the contempt held for women who chose to move on with their life (stealth.) Now that the Trans activist have succeeded in helping drag them out low and behold just like I predicted they wouldn't like the end result. It's to late now to put the Genie back in the bottle.As more and more of them are drug out and placed in front of the media more and more of them are going to speak of how the LGBT misrepresentation of them damaged them.

"And I'm really appalled about how all my charges have been brought on the internet. That has nothing to do with what the fight was caused...And you know they're just putting my information out there to completely...they put my whole government out there and I felt like it was wrong. It was really wrong. But really, to tell you the truth, though, they just seemed like they wanted to pick a fight that night. They really did." - crissy

And this is the real legacy of this. This woman is now outed everywhere. She now becomes a target for discrimination. There are RR groups asking already why she wasn't arrested for entering the womans bathroom, defending the hood "children" for standing up for themselves having been confronted with a man in the ladies room.

It all gets blown out of proportion. She becomes the aggressor just like the 14yo girl recently in one of those muslim countries, raped by a married man, discovered in the act by the man's wife, the girl is beaten by the wife, then to add insult to injury, sharia law condemns the victim to 100 lashes and she drops and dies after 70. The husband/rapist gets off.

Crissy's bruises will fade but the stigma will go with her through her life. The fear will always be with her. The consequenses of her beating, her public outing, will go on much further and be far more damaging to her than anything those 2 hood girls could have done.

It's sad, it's a tragedy, but not in any way someone not close to her lived situation could possibly understand. Ya'll may be well meaning, but please, you are damaging us. Our lives are way beyond your comprehension as you look in from the outside. Even my husband cannot begin to really and truly know what it is to be us. We are the new "juden" the new "niggas".

Leave it be, for good god's sake leave it be!

Leigh, the person that outed her was the guy that took the video. He's the one that put her information out there on facebook and everywhere else. He's the one that damaged her.

SAS and who are the ones that are controling how the mainstream media labels her through the use of their media guide? That labelling and the reference back to her birth sex are part of the problem with the LGBT media. We should never be referred to as universally accepting the label transgender or being seen as LGBT.LGBT groups and media should make it plain and clear to understand in any news story or in any guides they issue to mainstream media that most transsexuals are not LGBT identified. The numbers are on my side that only a small percentage of transsexuals associate within the LGBT community or identify as transgender. Look at the NCTE survey the length of time it was posted and where it was posted through. Only 6400 took it out of a total population predicted to be over 700,000. Then look at estimates of post-ops through sites like Lynn Conway's. Forced association is bullying and so is labelling us as other than are target gender the LGBT should no better than to do this type of thing.

The LGBT folks didn't force any association with me ... it was the people that called me "faggot" as far back as high school (once again, before anybody was saying "transgender").

You do realize that she's talking about the Baltimore Sun mentioning that she has prior charges for prostitution and destruction of property. Neither of which have any bearing on what happened or this case.

Now, I'm not saying that your post is incorrect. It's just that I don't think she is saying what you think she is saying.

So, ummm.... I saw it as both? A racist, and a transphobia event? Quite honestly, I think ALL hate and intolerance deserves some limelight, and eliminating either aspect of this event is diminishing it. Do not just say it is only racist, but also, do not just say it is only transphobic. I think in our country... well... as a Latina, who moved to the United States for college, when I was 17 years old, I can tell you... I can clearly see black on white racism, just as much as white on black racism, or any other forms of racism as well. Transphobia isn't even seen as phobia by regular folks, yet! I mean, it's joked about in mainstream media like it's nothing... Anyway. We should probably... even though we want to raise awareness about things... try to focus on the fact that, regardless of how people may personally feel about issues, this was an assault on a HUMAN BEING. The state of our youth... attacking strangers, violently... Taping things, without care for fellow man... mocking the pain and suffering of others... Should probably top ALL awareness in this story, over all other issues at stake. It doesn't matter if you're white, if you're black, if you're transgendered, or born just how you are... or whatever... if at the end of the day, you are a HORRIBLE human being. That, my friends... is the REAL tragedy.

Thanks for sharing this video. THis has started off a lot of anti-hate campaign. I cannot believe the employees are not only stupid and ignorant (a dangerous combination that leads to prejudice) but also so filled with hate and violence. I hope the employees and the attackers re brought to justice however young they should be. This is pathetic. How an you hurt anyone so bad? THis is a disgusting video and shame on them who perpetrated such an atrocity.

Whether I like it or not? -.femme

How insulting!

Since when do you have my power of attorney to say that I or anyone else has to sit down and suffer the consequences of your political views and activism?

Interesting to see that this tragedy in Maryland has erupted into another stupid label war brought on once again by the "Transsexual Right." Rather than focusing on the welfare of the victim and how to help her, some here want to focus on their never-ending crying fest about their own personal label beefs. Herein lies the difference between the people who actually care about the physical and emotional well being others and those who only care about themselves.

I'm Monica I don't know if anyone told you this but yours is the far right opinion.You are the one telling people how they can or cannot identify.You are the one inserting yourself into a medical process that is supposed to be private and only between the Doctor and Patient.Only the Doctor and patient have the right to label the patient as either gender or as you would neither(Transgender). They also have the right not to place the patient under your umbrella label of choice.So Monica quit playing Doctor Dictator.

Ah, yes. A label war is far more important than the victim's well-being. That is the same thinking we get from Teabaggers and the religious bigots . . . those wonderful people on the far RIGHT.

"Interesting to see that this tragedy in Maryland has erupted into another stupid label war brought on once again by the "Transsexual Right." - monica helms

Stupid label war?

This woman is one of ours, a post op transsexual, not one of your something in-between, gay affiliated, transgender warriors. She doesn't want your help Monica, as I wouldn't want your help either. Your kind of help is what got her plastered all over the internut as a transgender.

And please, don't even try to tell me about how you care about the physical and emotional well being of others, cos you couldn't care less about anyone that doesn't buy into the transgender BS you and your other non-op trans activists try to peddle to anyone naive enough to believe it.

You could give a tinker's cuss about anyone that doesn't toe the LGBT line or anything but your own self importance.

Amusing that those who so very often rail against people supposedly speaking for them or forcing association on them are so very willing to do the same to this woman.

She hasn't said she identifies with you, or doesn't consider herself affiliated with LGBT, or any of that. To claim she is, is doing the exact same thing you claim the "transgender warriors" are doing.

Sas I haven't labelled her anything but a woman and have argued it is supposed to be her choice to identify as any other label.You have been the one arguing for her and everyone elses full inclusion in the LGBT and under the Transgender blanket term.

I haven't argued for her being put under any label and I resent your putting words in my mouth. Leigh was the one that claimed this woman belongs to HER group, while simultaneously slapping labels on Monica and others as "in-between". Leigh claimed to know whose help this woman accepts and rejects and her feelings on "transgender" despite her having said no such thing. The conflict between this behavior and the "don't label us!" argument is obvious.

No amy .

This is helms way of derailing the discussion that helms can't win. Call it a label war and then the mods can step in and delete us for being off topic.

Seen it so many times.

I've waited, watched, read the comments and thought about how this all fits together.

A few things strike me. The victim says that an employee told her upon entering that she had to buy something if she wanted to use the restroom. That has never happened to me and so I tried to think about what might cause it. Perhaps there are more but I came up with 2 possibilities. First the location is such that many non-customers come in, use the restroom and leave without making a purchase so the manager/employees keep a vigilance for anyone entering who heads straight for the restroom. I don't put much credence in that simply because I often use a restroom in a fast food place before ordering and have never encountered such "buy first" enforcement but it is still a possibility. The second scenario is that The manager/employees know her and know she uses their establishment often for restroom only stops. I think the comments by the person who did the filming support this possibility. I saw no evidence that she was anything other than a woman yet the filmer seems to know she has "a history".

Now lets move to where the man approached her. She told him "not now". That could be an innocent comment by one stranger to another as she had an urgent need to pee or it could indicate some familiarity between them. I trust the police and DA to sort that one out. What I find interesting is the attack which immediately followed that short exchange between her and the unidentified man. I am guessing the attackers either saw the interaction or had it pointed out to them by the manager or an employee. What follows seems to be a cat fight. There was a winner/s physically and a loser. It would have been an entirely minor local issue except for the filming and subsequent posting on the net. I applaud McDonalds for discharging the person who put this on the net but I also believe their attorneys said "that employee is a huge legal liability so can him right now".

I expect to see more information released this week but only because this has gone viral. At this point it is a lose/lose all the way around. She loses, the attackers lose, the manager and employees lose as do McDonald's and the franchisee. Heck, even the currently unidentified man who approached her loses as this continues to unfold. In fact it wouldn't surprise me at all if he becomes snarled into the middle of the investigation.

But wait! Why stop there? GLBT loses too. So do the various factions who embrace or hate the umbrella. If Maggie and company mouth off about all this they will also lose. Dick the other woman (Peter LaBarbera) can also lose if he opens up on this. I guess I lose too somehow in the larger scope of all this.

Which brings me to my central point. This is a tar baby. Drop it. But I know my advice will go unheeded. Some things are just to irresistible like a sign that says "wet paint, don't touch".

Deena : I don't know if I agree with all your points 100 percent, but I'd like to compliment you for being a very sharp cookie.

Thanks for updating readers about the story, Alex. It's all so very horrible.

janice josephine carney | April 25, 2011 11:08 AM

It is a further insult to all of us that the manager, an all the employees that stood around and laughed still have their jobs. Just the employee that made and released the phone Video to Yahoo is fired. It seems to me the only thing that upset McDonald’s corporate headquarters is the fact that the beating was taped and released to the public.

They're not off the hook, at least not yet. Only the camera employee was immediately fired, but the rest are being investigated and it's pretty damn likely that most of them will be terminated after that investigation.

Ollie McFadden | April 30, 2011 3:52 PM

Quite frankly, disgusting. ALL the staff in that shop should have been fired and the elderly woman who interveened should have been given a medal or something. I'm only 17 and this kind of thing shocks me to the core and completely makes you loose faith in humanity.

My thoughts go out to the woman who was attacked.

steamboat | May 3, 2011 5:55 PM

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JamesSavik | May 12, 2011 8:23 AM

I don't know why this incident came as a big surprise. Thug culture is very homophobic and is way to ignorant to comprehend trans-gendered people.