Bil Browning

Transgender Woman Severely Beaten at Baltimore McDonalds While Employees Watch

Filed By Bil Browning | April 22, 2011 4:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Living, Transgender & Intersex
Tags: Baltimore, McDonalds, transgender customer, transwomen

This is absolutely disgusting. After an unidentified transwoman tried to use the bathroom at a Baltimore McDonald's, two patrons started attacking her in full view of other customers and employees. What did the employees do? mcdonald.jpgThey filmed it on their phones.

While you can see the manager yelling stop at the two women attacking the customer, none of the other employees even try to intervene or keep the women from dragging the victim across the restaurant floor. Instead, it's the elderly female customer that seems to do the most to help. The manager and employees simply watch as the victim starts to have a seizure and offer no help whatsoever.

You can let McDonalds know how you feel about their employees reprehensible actions - especially since they filmed it and promptly put it on the internet to degrade the victim further.

The video is after the jump. Trigger Warning: The video is extremely violent.

UPDATE: County police have confirmed that the attack happened April 18 at a McDonald's in Rosedale, in the 6300 block of Kenwood Ave. Two suspects have been arrested. Details after the jump.

(Hat tip to Catherine. Original source is NSFW. Picture is a McDonalds publicity photo.)

Details on the arrest of two suspects from the Baltimore Sun:

The attack occurred April 18 in the 6300 block of Kenwood Ave., in Rosedale, county police said. Police said a 14-year-old girl had been charged as a juvenile, while charges were pending against an 18-year-old woman. Police said the incident "remains under investigation and the state's attorney's office is reviewing the case."

Police said the victim was a 22-year-old woman and said an update on her condition was not immediately available.

As the video spread, McDonald's first acknowledged that it had occurred in a Baltimore restaurant and said they were working with local police.

"We are shocked by the video from a Baltimore franchised restaurant showing an assault. This incident is unacceptable, disturbing and troubling," the company said in a statement posted on its website. "Nothing is more important than the safety of our customers and employees in our restaurants. We are working with the franchisee and the local authorities to investigate this matter."

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Laura Goodspeed | April 22, 2011 4:33 PM

Those employees should be fired, as well as prosecuted. McDonald's needs to pay for this poor woman's medical expenses and her legal costs.
It's absolutely disgusting that the employees - including the "manager" (who obviously can't "manage" much of anything) did nothing. What kind of human beings stand by and watch that kind of vicious cruelty? The two ugly monsters who perpetrated the attack - they need to be locked up and muzzled. They are dangerous sociopaths with hatred in their hearts. Or rather, where their hearts would be, if they had them.

A HUMAN IS A HUMAN, IS STILL A HUMAN, AND THAT'S WHO WAS ATTACKED HERE. GUESS WE JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT ANY MORE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS THOUGH. GOD HELP YOUR FOOLISH CREATION AND HAVE MERCY ON THAT POOR PERSON WHO WAS BEATEN TO WITHIN AN ITCH OF THEIR LIFE. YOU SAID VENGEANCE IS YOURS, AND THOSE WHO DID THIS WILL MOST CERTAIN BE REPAID FOR IT.

john johnson | April 22, 2011 8:56 PM

they just have distorted views shaped by society. I'm convinced that they would be dead if they did not have hearts

hunterthomas | April 24, 2011 12:06 AM

There's nothing that can justify what happened here.

It's awful that they didn't do anything, unfortunately that could be company policy. A lot of companies take a hard line on their employees getting involved and breaking stuff like this up, so the company won't get sued if anyone is hurt.

What is the most appalling here is the fact that they filmed it, and not even for police evidence - if that was the intent - I would think it was noble. That a young man, admittedly not wanting to lose his job, but wanting to make sure this was documented, doing what he can. But the intent was to post it on the internet so other people could laugh and further victimize this poor woman.

So not only did these employees do nothing, they wanted to do nothing. And that... that pisses me off. And then when she was siezing... ugh actually i need to stop talking about this, because themore i do the sicker i feel.

AboveTheLaw | April 23, 2011 2:09 AM

Why is everyone getting all over McDonalds for this? Those women should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but there's no law saying you have to be a good person. So some of the employees were loser-creeps, that isn't criminal, sorry.

And the manager did everything he could. He put himself in the way physically and kept yelling "stop! stop!" He had called the police already, and they were on their way. What do you want from him, for him to throw himself into the fray and throw punches? He's not allowed to do that. He would have lost his job, and been put in jail himself. He probably has a family to support. He did exactly what the law tells him to do: report it, and try to discourage further violence, non-violently.

The employees were some dumb kids working at McDonalds, not exactly College Professors. They did what any voyeur does- they videotaped it because it was spectacular. You've NEVER rubbernecked an accident? And obviously it was spectacular, because millions of us watched it and are discussing it. Regardless of their intent, the video is now the best evidence we have to prosecute the attackers. So that's a net benefit in my book, we can't force everyone to be decent and all we can do is chastise them for being callous.

What does McDonalds, or Coca Cola have to do with any of this? They condemned the action. They will probably fire those kids because of the backlash (and who is that helping?) Beyond that, they had no control or responsibilities to keep nut jobs from attacking their customers in the bathroom. If this happened in your driveway, all you could do is call the police and yell at them to stop.

Well a lot of what you say is true i for one could not just stand by and watch someone being attack for any reason where is our common decenty.So i guess i would end up in jail and if it was on my property i sure as hell would not just yell stop. Sometimes i wonder what kind of people we have become when all we think of is ourselves ,she could have been killed and they did nothing, i could not live with myself knowing i stood there and did nothing to help

"And the manager did everything he could. He put himself in the way physically and kept yelling "stop! stop!" He had called the police already, and they were on their way. What do you want from him, "

No the manager DID NOT do enough to stop his staff. He could have sacked them on the spot

Robin Tell | April 23, 2011 4:24 PM

This is a libertarian idea, an Enlightenment European idea, straight from John Locke. Nobody owes anybody anything, nobody has any duties, only rights, and we're all free to be heartless isolationists towards one another. Who says? When was it ever so? There's nothing written in stone about this Ayn Rand nonsense. It's a choice--the pre-eminent choice of philosophy in the modern US, unfortunately, but not some hard-wired fact of nature the way its adherents like to present it.

A political philosophy can be judged by the world that would result from it. I want none of this aloof, unconnected wild west your doctrine would produce. This video is a perfect example. Some non-violent person is being beaten, and the people around do little or nothing to stop it, and you say they did right. Hell with that. Yes, each and every one of them should have stepped in bodily, throwing punches if necessary, to make it stop. If I'd walked into that building in the middle of this, it would have ended, pronto.

michelle winters | April 23, 2011 8:22 PM

The manager could have taken the girl out of harms way like 10 times, non violently... He chose not to... He allowed the girls to beat the girl over and over again... Manager needs to be disciplined, McDonald's should be sued. Trained to handle incidents like this from happening...

That is exactly what the manage should have done the second those girls turned violent! :: Go over, take the poor woman's arm & escort her under his guard as he brings her into the employee area, or if necessary to the office or employee lounge, until police arrive.
He would not lose his job for that and he could have saved this poor woman a whole lot of pain and suffering.
And for god sakes!! if the manager wasn't doing this, wtf wasn't anyone else?
I hope she isn't permanently injured!
Those girls need to go to jail - plain and simple! I don't know what the youth of America is coming to when we think crap like this is funny!!

If the employee had been filming this to give to the cops as evidence, he would have been focusing more on capturing their faces, and not have warned the women near the end of the video "you better get out of here before the cops come". I am also disappointed with the employees, company policy or not, when this goes beyond a cat fight (kicking her in the head, pulling her 20 feet across the room) that is time to intervene. The manager could have done more, as in ask the women to leave after the first few hair pulls, and bent down in to see if the woman was alright, making it unable for the other women to attack. The manager continually walked away leaving the line of attack open. That being said, the women have been apprehended now, and that's what matters.

I am without words as I watched this! How could anyone allow this to happen - many times through out the video this young woman and Yes I say WOMAN could have been taken out of harms way by anyone of the employees. PUT down the phone and helped- did they NO. Is it good to have this on video yes because now these two can and WILL be charged and I hope spend many years behind bars.

I am a father of a affirmed male- who has had many struggles with his life but has overcome them because of supportive family and friends, however I fear the same could happen any day. Amazes me why people care so much how others live their lives, while they do not know how to live their own. How was this young woman hurting anyone? What did she do to deserve almost beaten to death? NOTHING - she was being who she is from the center of her soul. My prayers go out to her and to those who do not understand what it like to live in a body that is screaming inside this is NOT who I am.. Wake up and do the research people- why would someone put themselves through all this pain to be the person whom they are from the core..

Jan, your words give me some hope that acts like this will not be part of our societies. As a transgendered girl, I thank you for sharing your story.
Viviane

Jan, I too am a transgender. And I fear that someday I'll walk into the men's room and be assaulted if someone finds out that I am not fully transitioned and am, therefore, an easy target. It hurts to know that people like myself are mercilessly and cruelly abused for being who we are on the inside, regardless of whether or not that's what our outside looks like. The outside can be changed. And what's on the inside matters so much more. Thank you.

They could have, I don't know, pulled apart the fight instead of standing there and watching, laughing like sick, demoralized creeps. Clearly there were more employees than people in the fight, they could have easily broken it up had they tried. But no. They stood there and watched. Even as she siezed they stood there, taping it. One thing is for sure; I would NOT have just yelled for them to stop. I would have HELPED STOP IT.

I'm almost positive you wouldn't be saying this had it been you on the ground. You wouldn't feel it just had they just stood by and watched you get beaten as if it were the most entertaining thing that had ever happened in their lives. Maybe not the best thing but the most entertaining; enough to film and upload as if the violence were a rock concert.

Robert Rowse | April 25, 2011 11:25 PM

Actually, there is a law, called the Good Samaritan Law. Look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

Actually he walked right over her while she was convulsing... he didn't care either. He was only doing what he thought would allow him to keep his job.

sarahallison48 | April 23, 2011 2:11 PM

People should never care what a policy by their company says, helping a person is helping a person. Standing by and watching someone get beaten until siezures is unacceptable. It makes me so sad and sick to watch this video, yet I know this type of thing gets played out daily, amd it worries me that the human race will never become anywhere near compassionate, uplifting, an helpful.

Violent attacks (no matter what the bigoted "reason" is) upon individuals whose only "crime" is the act of just trying to live out the basic elements of everyday Life, must never be tolerated or tacitly condoned through cowardly indifference or lack of proper intervention.

The fact is that this Nation's systems of civil government remain complicit to the heinous outrage committed here and elsewhere against taxpaying, law-abiding Transgender Americans, every single day that legislators do not rise up and specifically affirm and protect this obviously oppressed and underserved segment of our diverse society.

I urge the Management of this particular Establishment (a McDonalds franchise) and its Parent Company to set a proactively positive example by terminating all employees on the Premises who, upon witnessing the attack, did not do their best to either stop the crime that was committed here; or summon the proper Civil Authorities to reckon with the situation!

Sincerely,
Nancy-Jo Morris
Colorado Springs, CO

nicholas guy | April 23, 2011 11:31 AM

would agree that McDonalds is not guilty of fostering hatred amongst its franchises towards any specific group. I would also assume that its within their condition of employment that all employees must sign to be employed by them (McDonalds)that prohibits Any Form of Harassment or hatred against any specific group.

What is Very disturbing is that hatred and fear against us is being promoted by certain political and religious parties. The best example of this is states refusal to grant us equal protection under the law. So long as we are being singled out as perverted, sick and anti god by homophobic and very narrow minded 'people (God fearing I might add)we will continue to be an oppressed people.

For a very short while we seemed to be making forward progress in our basic human rights to be recognised by society. The last eight to ten years however; due 100% to hatred against us by a religious and political minority; we have lost greatly.

What history has proven (The rise of Hitler and the Nazi party as the best example) is that the more a lie is promoted as factually true, the more people will accept that lie as being truthful if it is not confronted publicly by a legitimate authority as being a lie.

McDonalds is not the blame here (And 'No' I am not an employee of McD's; Far from it actually); our political and religious climate in this country should be held accountable for all acts of violence against any peoples within its borders.So long as governmental bodies within all of our states openly attack us as being deviant and anti god in our beliefs and rights as human, and strip away any rights we have attained, the more likely weak minded individuals will feel justified in their acts of violence against us.

Readers note that I consider myself as transgendered male to female and am not fearful of attacking hatred publicly or privately against my/our rights.

I don't think it's the religion or the politics here. I'd blame it more on the society, and whatever 'ideas' those bullies had.

just so everyone knows i was a worker for mcdonalds and the employees are not permitted to even have cell phones on them while working they are to be in the "crew room". the manager did right by calling the cops but then should've gotten the woman out of harms way that is the policy the only way you don't do something like that is if its a robber. if someone is being beaten on tho you are supposed to step in and stop whats going on.

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I agreee with you that they should have helped that lady but , im sure MC Donalds prob has a very strict employeee law preventing them from entering conflicts such as this
noah-

My outrage limits my speech. Suffice to say, many have expressed my sentiments very eloquently. Both of those dogs should be charged as Adults and charged and prosecuted to the FULLEST EXTENT of the LAW. God bless the victim. And God bless the older woman for her courage to step in. Needless to say, a whole new crew is needed at that McDonalds.

Thank god the employee filmed this, more evidence to be used against the perpetrators in court. I don't know the full story I hope they called the police quickly, but the employees tried several times to intervene, the girls were just nuts.

Diana Coggins | April 24, 2011 10:07 AM

I am so disgusted at the people who work at Mc Donald. As the woman lays on the floor seizing she is not held or comforted by no one. That manager should of stood in front of her and not let them two punk ass bitches hit the lady again. The police should of been called IMMEDIATELY!!! To the lady that helped the most Thank you...There is decency left some where...I think everyone in that MC Donaldsd needs to be fired immediately. Them women need to be charged with first degree assault and a hate crime. Maybe even manslaughter because she began to seize which could of caused her to die. I'm really hurt...by this. I hope this increases awareness of the discrimination transgender community face every where!!!This is a hate crime!!!

It's usually advised not to touch a person while they are seizing unless you have medical training. You could hurt them, or they you, while you just try to help. At least, that's what I've always been told by friends and family with a similar condition.

If you did notice, the cameraman started yelling that the police needed to be there now, when the girl's seizure started. When there was more wrong with her than just a beating, at least someone seemed concerned.

Acts like this disgust me, for the sheer hate behind them. That's all it was, was a hate crime.

Though, I am on the fence about McDonald's responsibility in the matter. On one hand, the girl was a guest within their facility, and therefore, McDonald's does hold some responsibility for her safety. On another, I'm sure they acted to the 'best of their ability' while adhering to their policy. While yes, the Manager could have done more than yell stop, he was also looking out for himself. Were he to so much as touch the two... beasts, because I don't want to even associate myself by sharing a gender with those animals, they could turn around and sue him, and McDonald's for Assault. That's why employee's EVERYWHERE never touch a customer. One wrong move, and it's a lawsuit.

I wouldn't blame the man if he was just simply scared of getting jumped by the animals. I would have been too.

It is, however, a shame that the Cameraman, and his little buddies were more concerned about putting this on Youtube than for getting it to the police.

I look forward to the day that these crimes are no longer happening. This is just depressing.

Who cares what's in your pants, or under your shirt. What matters is who you ARE, not what. Why can't people just accept that?

Why should McDonald's be help responsible for this? It's not the entire company's fault that it happened. The attackers should be forced to pay, and the employees who stood by should be forced to pay, but McDonald's isn't immediately responsible just because it occurred in a McDonald's restaurant.

You can't prosecute the employees for anything. It's not their job to break up fights. They did the right thing by calling the cops and cooperating with authorities. Direct your outrage in the right direction.

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twinkie1cat | April 30, 2011 1:12 PM

I agree and would go farther. The employees are an accessory to the crime. They did nothing to stop it, did not call the police---they had their phone right there making the video; 911 is real easy to dial. They should be prosecuted as hate crimers themselves, especially the ones who are adults. In some jurisdictions hate crime laws do not apply to juveniles.

What's up with transwomen and McDonald's attacks? There was the Christine Sforza one in New York, then the Memphis one, now here in Baltimore.

james Smith | April 22, 2011 4:57 PM

just don't let Mc Donald know, also Let the largest stock holder of MC Donald's with is COKE COLA know as well. Boycott both MCD and Coke.. then things might change..

john johnson | April 22, 2011 8:53 PM

but it tastes so good

Nina Rasmussen | April 23, 2011 2:47 AM

No it doesn't taste good. It's just that you've forgotten what normal nutrition is like. Mc Donalds is the worst crap food ever. Makes you fat and causes health problems. Don't forget that!

Does that poor girl's blood taste good?

That's not going to do anything at all. The better option would be to encourage McDonalds to join the fight against violence against the GLBT community, especially people who identify as transgender, as they're often the victims of the most violent hate crimes.

Ann Wintermoyer | April 22, 2011 5:01 PM

As a Manager you are required by your company to protect the health and wealfare of your guests. You failed to do this. You and your employees should be terminated. This video was 3 min. 2 sec. long where were the police? You as a man ager walked by this human being more than once. Are you trained to help a person who is haveing a seziure? I think you failed this person and would not want to patronize your store.

This is why HRC and Barney Frank must be repudiated by all caring human beings. They don't want to protect women like the victim in that video. They'd rather encourage potty panic and attacks like that woman suffered. And if you're comfortable with denying protections to trans women, you are complicit in her attack and the attacks on other women like her.

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No, I think the reason people use nigger is because there is systemic racism in our society.

And, on a different level, people use words like tranny, shemale and he/she because there is systemic transphobia in our society.

Please don't use a horrific attack like this as an excuse to make racist brownie points.

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Richie Madden | April 22, 2011 5:57 PM

If you weren't racist you wouldn't use the word. Period. This has nothing to do with race, it is transphobia. They are transphobic, horrible bitches.

The last sexist word in your comment unfortunately undermines the rest of your message to some degree.

Thanks for the calling out of the sexist word.

How is "bitch" a sexist word? Something tells me you wouldn't think "cock" or "dick" are sexist against men.

Jean McCain | April 23, 2011 4:17 AM

How is that a sexist word? If it was two men, and he said "transphobic, horrible guys", would that be sexist?

Rachel Newman | April 23, 2011 10:45 AM

WOAH. Calling someone a "guy" is A LOT different from calling someone a "bitch." I often say, "I'm going to go hang out with my guy friends" when referring to male friends, but I would never say, "I'm going to go hang out with my bitch friends." when referring to female friends.

English is not my mother tongue, so I may be wrong, but I thought "bitch" wasn't exactly the female form of "guy", but rather of "dog".

But I guess it's absolutely not sexist to use it this way.

Kristopher | July 3, 2011 1:41 AM

Technically, "Bitches" have nothing to so with sexism. If you look it up, it means "Female DOG". Just throwing that out there.

While I don't doubt that race played into this beating, PLEASE DO NOT look at this video and come away with racist assumptions about POC attitudes towards transgender individuals.

Anja Flower | April 22, 2011 6:07 PM

As a genderqueer trans woman, may I say that it is NOT okay to advocate my rights and my liberation at the expense of people of color? It's just not. Minority groups have been working at cross purposes for too long - I'm not interested in perpetuating that, or in seeing others do so. Racism is not okay. Period.

Themiscyra | April 22, 2011 6:27 PM

The original comment has (rightly) been deleted, but agreed. We cannot afford to replace one form of discrimination and oppression with another.

this is why every trans woman needs to legally arm herself, and support the right to keep and bear arms. people would be much less likely to attack us if we can defend ourselves.

CatherineCC | April 22, 2011 5:49 PM

Getting a CCW in Baltimore is almost impossible.

Jack Meihoff | April 22, 2011 6:29 PM

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Wow, racist much?

Those women should not have attacked another woman just for needing to use a restroom, right? Okay, good. But what the fuck is up with the slur?

Put some more thought into what you're saying. The beating could have been even more tragic if the attackers were the ones carrying guns.

which is exactly why we need to be armed, and better trained than those who will attack us. and i've put a great deal of thought into this. we have the right to defend ourselves. i've chosen to use that right, and train accordingly.

I live in Arizona and the place is gun crazy. They try to force guns into classrooms, into bars, everyplace you can imagine and last year they got rid of the requirement that to get a CW permit you even had to show that you knew how to use a gun. Since they've gone out of their way to force people to carry guns it has led to more, not less, gun violence (including innocent bystanders who are killed when other people miss who they are shooting at.)

As a rural guy I support the second amendment but before you start arming everyone think carefully what kind of society you want. It's made Arizona noticeably more, not less, violent.

You are incorrect. Violence in Arizona is down. You just made that up completely to support your view. Here is one of many links which show crime went DOWN after the increase in gun ownership. Lying to make a point only makes you look foolish and desperate. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/14/arizona-violent-crime-dow_n_646265.html

Robert Heinlein wrote a novel or two that depict a society where nearly everyone is armed (save those who wear a "brassard" and are specially protected under the law). People openly carrying handguns in this hypothetical society become much more formally polite - after all, if (nearly) everyone is armed, then no one would want to unduly aggravate the next person.

One would imagine that hotheads would eliminate themselves from the picture after a relatively short time.

Two adages that come to mind:
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Guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people.

If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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Both carry elements of truth.

Personally, I disagree with the SCOTUS and the NRA on the interpretation of the second amendment, but I don't agree with personal weaponry bans.

What I think is that the second amendment clearly connects the right of gun ownership with the maintenance of a well regulated militia. Essentially, the government should be able to specify certain aspects of legally ownable weaponry, particularly uniformity of ammunition used and interchangeability of parts; and those who choose to own weapons must be trained and involved in the national guard/state militia between the ages of 20 and 65. No state insists on this by law - and I would suspect that such a law would pass constitutional muster.

In a situation such as this, if the trans woman was armed, what could have happened as soon as she pulled it from her bag, it could have been taken from her and used on her by the perpetrators.


"Jack Meihoff"

You'd expect a legitimate comment to come from the punch line to a joke from Some Kind of Hero?

I can't think of anything worse than fighting fire with firearms here, being trans in this society is quite a load to bear in itself, guns would only escalate an already dangerous situation. Also, pragmatically, The media would slay us as a community. So maybe a movement towards taching these girls some basic self defense would be better.

Mahatma Gandhi philosophized that "when you turned the other cheek, to an adversary (and in essence took the high road); then whether he liked it or not the adversary would walk away with a new found respect for you. I know its a hard thing to ask when we are bombarded by these types of events still I think that the end will justify the means.

Gandhi also argued that it was immoral to resist the Nazis using physical force and that the Jews should have "offered themselves to the butcher's knife" in a noble act of collective suicide rather than resist the Holocaust.

Gandhi would have applauded the people in that McDonalds for not "immorally" intervening against the beating.

Ellen in Kalamazoo | April 23, 2011 8:41 AM

No, Ghandi would have stepped between the attackers and the victim, and taken the beating for her. Had all the patrons and other employees acted as Ghandi or MLK would have, the two attackers would have been outnumbered and we would have seen courageous nonviolent resistance at work.

Unfortunately, this is not how society works. This is simply a "should-of" or "what-if" statement. There was no "inspiring leader" present to take command and stop the violence, or take the beating themselves in place of the innocent victim. In our society, when an innocent person is being bullied, attacked, mugged, etc... the same thoughts run through almost everyone's minds: "Oh, they need help.... wellll.... I don't want to get involved... eh... someone else will see them and help them, surely." There's this mentality that there is a nearby hero in the crowd who will show up and dish out justice. There's not. People *SHOULD* take up arms and be the hero.... *be* that exception. But as I said, this is not how society works.

"Turning the other cheek" is not a sure-fire solution at the expense of a few scrapes and bruises.

People who don't think or use their brains in any logical way, like these attacks, don't need a reason to stop attacking someone.

The victim surrenders? Keep attacking. The victim fights back? Keep attacking. The victim tries to walk away? Hunt them down. Etc... They have the mind of a child, and feel that they need to deal out the most punishment to whatever it is that they personally do not like. If you were the attacker, and you were extremely upset with someone you saw as a "freak", and just wanted to let your fists fly into them as much as you could, someone turning the other cheek isn't going to calm you down; if anything, someone who turns the other cheek and practically ignores you, would only lead to you becoming infuriated at them, likely leading to an even more vicious assault.

The only way to "reason" with *some* people, is to immediately show them you have a 100% legitimate reason that they shouldn't mess with you; a gun. You could be a martial arts/self-defense master, and people would still start crap with you. You can't see talent and experience. You can see a gun. And sure, self-defense techniques work on 1-2 people and are a much better alternative than having to pull out or fire a gun, but in the event that there are 3+ individuals attacking you? I hope you're either a very fast runner, or Bruce Lee.

Bottom Line: Turning the other cheek will not work on people who are so incredibly ignorant that they literally almost have their heads up their asses; it will only infuriate them and egg them on, leading to a more vicious attack. A gun, or another sure-fire method is absolutely necessary in *some* situations.

A gun doesn't always work. Angry arrogant people will not stand down. They will stand with the gun between their eyes and scream at you to pull the damn trigger, calling your bluff.

lisalee18wheeler | April 23, 2011 11:47 AM

But then we couldn't be perceived as victims, right?

Reprehensible to say the least. No offense to anyone but, this proves my thoughts about both the majority of McDonald's patrons and employees. These people should be held criminally liable for this.
This is a very graphic example of why I carry a gun. I am quite capable of defending myself, I am a Marine but, never hurts to even the odds.

Regan DuCasse | April 22, 2011 5:18 PM

What a pair of pit bulls! And what a pair of stupid humps who sit around and watch and do nothing. It took an old woman to step in and do something. That manager had every obligation to call the police on those two women responsible for the beating. It was a serious crime and actionable. That no one intervened after such a prolonged attack is sad, sad, sad.

I hope that the victim will be all right. Getting attacked about the head and kicked in the head like that is dangerous. Two against one, and four more standing around taking video.
NONE of them apparently not only have any home training, but ignored the employee handbook too.
W.T.F!!

Annie Cargirl | April 22, 2011 8:28 PM

How about we not insult pit bulls by referring to these two monsters as such? Pit bulls are more often than not sweet, loving, happy dogs who would likely have laid down their own lives to protect this woman if she were their owner.

People, and I used the term loosely, like those two who beat this poor woman don't deserve to be compared to a loyal, loving, non-discriminating creature.

Thank you for pointing this out.

This was NOT a transwoman. GET YOUR SOURCES RIGHT. OFFICIAL FROM THE BALTIMORE PRESS:


http://www.wbaltv.com/r/27640819/detail.html #mcdonalds #baltimore

22 Year Old WOMAN.

Please, check your sources!!!!!

Transwomen are women. I've emailed directly with the reporter and he's aware that the woman is transgender. They are working to confirm but didn't want to publish that without talking directly to her first since they weren't sure if it was a factor in the attack. If it wasn't, they didn't want to out her.

Thank you Bil. You answered while I was posting below :)

Do you have any information about the woman? Is she okay? Is there anything that I can do to help her? Money, a place to stay, anything?

Why is the victim's privacy being invaded by posting this? if the original reporter has the decency to wait to find out if it's ok to publish the information, why isn't that being respected here?

"Transwomen are women"

Not to the vast majority of ppl.

so,

people get to vote on who's a woman and who isn't?

what about a "man"? who's a real man? if you are too choosey about that, will there be someone available to take the garbage out.

Yes, they do, except they dont even have to get up a vote, this view is so pervasive and prevalent. And yes, goes for trans men being men, too, just mostly ppl dont get as bent over them (remember the post of a few days ago over the guy who overseeing men giving urine samples?).

Well, Carol, if the opinions of the majority made things so, most of us would have fallen off the end of the earth long ago but the fact no one ever has won't keep people from trying to push us over the edge, I suppose.

As far as the guy who was policing drug testing suspects is concerned, this is not the place to discuss his situation. My opinion of who he is and what he wants to do are worlds apart. If majority opinion mattered I wouldn't have any questions about the job he wants back. I have plenty of questions about that, though.

@Carol,

Up until the late 18th century, most people believed whales were fish. That did not make them fish.

In 1818, there was a celebrated court decision, in the matter of Samuel v. Judd, which involved the taxation of fish oil by the State of New York. Mr. Judd had three casks of whale oil, and Mr. Samuel, the tax inspector, called for him to pay the tax of $25 per cask. The case pitted the testimony of whaling captains and preachers up against the leading natural scientist of the day - and the jury decided that the whale was indeed a fish!

The appeal was mooted by the state legislature recognizing whales as mammals the following year.

In the case of trans people, the views of an ignorant and uneducated majority don't actually change the underlying facts of our existence.

As it is, for much of the 20th century, like the 17th century for the whales, transgender people were viewed in much the way the 1965 blue ribbon medical commission commissioned by New York City saw it - as delusional members of their originally-assigned sex for whom any medical or surgical treatment was merely "palliative."

But towards the end of the 20th century, in 1995, one medical study found brain structures in transgender people matching those of the sex that was not assigned. This was confirmed in a later study in the last year of the 20th century, in 2000.

In 2008, separate studies in Australia confirmed genetic predispositions that can explain how a brain can develop along one sexed path, while the genital tract develops along the other sexed path.

Trans people do not actually belong to their initially-assigned sex, even at birth. The initial assignment is in error.

So, regardless of what a lot of people may believe, those beliefs do not change the actyal underlying phenomena.

The sun may appear to rise in the east and set in the west, and people believed it literally did, for the longest time. Galileo was even condemned by an Inquisition tribunal, and sentenced to house arrest for the remainder of his life (and that was a mercy granted to him, rather than burning at the stake, because he publicly recanted his "error.")

But even though it still looks that way, people do know better these days - at least those who have a basic understanding of the science involved.

So - we really do need to educate people. Perhaps that little bit of education might make it so that one, two or more people might realize the fact that trans women are really women, and trans mena re really men.

Thanks!

This is not the first nor will it be the last incident to occur at Mcdonalds like this. This is such and big money making business. They need to teach diversity training and refresh it 1x a month. When enployees do wrong they need to be fired. Not managment making all kind of excuses as to why they should not fire them. Oh they need their job. Guess what there are a million other people out there who need a job. There is too much okaying what big business does these days. Greed it the american way. Something like this needs to happen to one of their family members. I bet this would be in media with the best of the best lawyers!!!! Time to stand up for oneself!!

@Carol,

I realize that there is a great need for education on the issue. Just because a majority of people possibly don't know about or even care to understand the scientific evidence that trans women are women, it does not change the fact that they are, indeed, women.

I appreciate your having pointed out the need for education of the ignorant. Thanks.

In that very same article you referred us all too it also states later on: "Equality Maryland identified the victim as a transgendered woman. The group has urged officials to investigate the attack as a hate crime." How's about you finish reading what you start? And as previously mentioned, transgender women ARE women.

actually, the article in the Sun has been updated continuously since it was first posted and the information has changed. The information that the victim is transgendered was not added until later. Anyone reading it before that would not have seen it.
It still begs the question of why it's ok to disclose that information without the victim's permission which it was clear was not given.

if you had read the whole article you would have seen the part where the journalist states, the victim was identified as a transgendered woman. YOU get YOUR sources right.

"When Baltimore County officers arrived, they found a 22-year-old woman who appeared to be having a seizure. Witnesses told police that the victim had been assaulted by two teens. Equality Maryland later identified the victim as a transgendered woman and urged officials to investigate the attack as a hate crime."

Above is a quote from the referenced article. Trans women are women, and the writer of the article obviously knew that.

I have been using the woman's restrooms exclusively for three years. I try but truthfully more often than not, I probably don't pass. I have had no problem.

After seeing this, I wonder if it is because if that had been me, there would have been two really beat up trailer trash cunts.

Wonder if the you tube 'donalds workers thought the seizure was a bit much or it they just ran out of memory?

Our trans friend seemed so passive, I hope she is ok.

I do use a gender neutral restroom if it is offered not because I prefer it, but I see it as meeting the business that has taken this step at this half way point.

If the manager had done nothing, we might get some valuable action out of McD. It did seem like he did little unless he was on the phone to the police during that he seemed to have disappeared and even if that was the case, he should have ordered the employees to "Put your fucking phones down get your ass over their and stop these attackers with what ever it takes."

This bathroom issue is so unfortunate, it is trans equalities biggest stumbling block probably. Really though what was that woman thinking that was going to be seen that she was not showing off to every human in eye site? Did she run out of the toilet w/o zipping her pants or does she show her ass like that all the time?

I wonder if there are similar cases of transwomen in men's restrooms. My guess is they might react just as violently and be even more effective in expressing their hate.

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Roberta,

I have no idea why your comment was deleted, but if your comment was directed at my use of a sexist word, I am sorry. I was so angered at that moment when I first saw this a word I have not uttered in at least 30 years came out of my fingers/ keyboard. I don't know if I personally have ever before used it negatively. I don't know why my comment was not removed. It probably should have been. If I have angered you, I am sorry.

It took a day to get a grasp of this situation. I hope this video leads to broader understanding and positive changes. I am so glad that the victim is OK.

And remember folks, the reason why transpeople in Maryland and elsewhere shouldn't have public accommodations protections is because they might assault someone in the bathroom.

Be sure to follow the source link above and read the Facebook comments. Also, here's a link tweeted to me with more info: http://www.wbaltv.com/r/27640819/detail.html

I was thinking about that too. Up is down, etc.

Kathy Padilla | April 22, 2011 5:59 PM

Exactly, Becky. I'm sitting at a neighborhood bar right now having a bite & enjoying a Guinness only way home. I should be worried more about what to leave as a tip more than what might happen if I use the rest room.

But now I'm worried about being here & will leave early.

Those who support compromise on trans access to public accommodations had better fucking pay attention to this and rethink their cowardice.

Chris Cook | April 22, 2011 6:11 PM

Desiree

Are you telling us that a law would have stopped this? It would certainly say - you can use a bathroom, but it would not ever stop someones bias and hate.
Get real.

Themiscyra | April 22, 2011 6:29 PM

On my own blog, I compared these laws to a trapeze artist's net. I think the comparison's valid. They may not fully protect you, any more than laws against murder protect people from getting killed -- but at least you have a net. It's nothing to sneeze at.

Actually I do believe that changing the law does change public perception.

I know this may seem a stretch, but I own a bicycle shop. I ride bicycles frequently many miles at a time. It used to be that at least two times a week I would have a motorist commit a violent act against. In a meeting with a local bicycle club we discussed how you would have to stand outside the most dangerous bar in town at 3 am every night to experience a similar level of aggression. Then, we got the county to put up "Share the Road" signs and our city began developing "bicycle friendly" signs and infrastructure. This is not science, I know, but I believe that right and wrong, right and criminal do effect people. It might not fix the resentment over night, but I believe it matters.

While I would hope that we could have the right to access by gender and gender presentation rather than gender perception, I think one thing that might be possible out of this is more requirement that major corporations change their store blueprints to include "family/gender neutral restrooms.

This video is horrible, it woke me up in the middle of the night last night, but it's existence is so important. It may change the world.

Cathy Brennan | April 22, 2011 6:12 PM

Antidiscrimination laws do not protect individuals from violent attacks, and it's foolish to suggest otherwise. That said, this incident is horrific and terrible.

friday jones | April 22, 2011 7:13 PM

Since the dispute began when the two women who initiated the assault challenged the trans woman's right to be in that rest room, I'd say that Antidiscrimination laws DO protect individuals from violent attacks, and it's foolish to suggest otherwise. :p

Whether you believe they help or not - why is that any reason to NOT have antidiscrimination laws?

Counting down until the religious right either twists this into sounding like she had done something to spark the fight, or else to say that keeping us out of restrooms will prevent things like this from happening.

Leafy Greens | April 23, 2011 10:27 PM

unfortunately, i was thinking that same thing...

Richie Madden | April 22, 2011 5:26 PM

Please tweet! This needs to get out there!
HATE CRIME Baltimore-Transwoman beaten, employees watch/video @McDonalds 6315 Kenwood Ave Rosedale MD - (410) 866-3250, http://goo.gl/P402Y

Jules Moore | April 22, 2011 5:29 PM

Uh, guys... sources are saying it was a woman? Just got a tweet about it and checked the press. They're saying it was a woman.

Rebecca found a good link. Here's a quote:

"Officers said they found a 22-year-old woman who appeared to be having a seizure."

May want to fix that.

Also, there are other sources around. Google it. Still, a horrible act.

I responded to this above in response to an earlier comment.

What do they need to fix? Are you implying the victim wasn't a woman?

suspect class | April 23, 2011 1:42 AM

trans women are women.

A trans woman IS a woman!

applepiecrust | April 23, 2011 11:23 AM

Why do YOU seem to think ANYONE is applying the victim is not a woman?
As others have said, transwomen are women. Stop trying to hide behind your revolting transphobia.

Bilerico, if you're deleting the racist comments, why are you not deleting the transphobic comments such as these?

applepiecrust | April 24, 2011 2:41 AM

Sorry, I meant trans women not "transwomen"

Cathy Brennan | April 22, 2011 5:30 PM

That's incredibly awful, and very very sad.

Jules Moore | April 22, 2011 5:31 PM

"Police said the victim was a 22-year-old woman and said an update on her condition was not immediately available."

Don't know if I can comment twice, but there's another quote - they're saying she's full blown female.

Here's the link to that: (official) http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-viral-video-mcdonalds-20110422,0,4613709.story

From the Baltimore Sun.

Not sure what your point is here.

1) Perhaps, Baltimore police correctly identify trans women as women in police reports. It is a huge complaint when there is a news story about anti-trans violence that we are ofyen mis-gendered in the press and by police.

2) The FB and Twitter posts by the employee who uploaded the video specifically corrected the title of the video, because the victim "was a man".

3) Even if the woman was cis, it appears as though, based on the comments by the employee, the attack was still motivated by the assumption that the victim was trans. This makes the attack anti-trans violence.

The jerk employee who made the video and posted said the victim was "really a man"... he said it repeatedly:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128

Anja Flower | April 22, 2011 6:26 PM

"Full blown female?" Does that mean that trans women are not "full-blown" women?

Richie Madden | April 22, 2011 7:04 PM

Than you Anja

Brandigirl | April 22, 2011 9:35 PM

I'm going to play devils advocate here and simple say I'm not surprised that this happened in fact I'm more surprised that it doesn't happen more often. Not that I want it to or that getting beat up is a good thing nor is it right or fair, but we must remember that it is a two sex society that we live in and although trans women live "AS" women they are by all accounts legally men up and to the time they have GRS and officially change their birth certificates. How they feel,see themselves or Identify is of little importances to the authorities, what matter to them is whats between ones legs period. While society is willing to tolerate transgender people living in genders they weren't born to simply because life moves to fast and is full of too many troubles of their own to care they aren't jumping for joy about it nor are they going to pay much attention when someone who chooses to live outside societies norms gets hurt.

I feel that All of the Mcdonalds employees involved in this should be fired and the two animals who beat this women should go to jail for a very long time, but the fact of the matter is that Maryland isn't a wonderland of equality and therefore the chances are that these two will get off with some sort of lesser punishment since ones a minor and the other will most likely be charged with simple assault and battery. I doubt very much that a hate crimes charge will be added although I feel it should be.....I'm still waiting for the murderer of Larry King to be brought to justice likes thats ever going to happen....so if a person can walk into a classroom full of people and blow the back of someones head off can spin doctor their way out of it what chance do you think this person who simple got beat up has of finding justice I ask you ?

suspect class | April 23, 2011 1:35 PM

"While society is willing to tolerate transgender people living in genders they weren't born to simply because life moves to fast and is full of too many troubles of their own to care they aren't jumping for joy about it nor are they going to pay much attention when someone who chooses to live outside societies norms gets hurt."

You should be ashamed of yourself. This is disgusting on so many levels.

She's post-op, Brandigirl. Just like you. Just without the bitterness.

@Brandigirl writes: "we must remember that it is a two sex society that we live in and although trans women live "AS" women they are by all accounts legally men up and to the time they have GRS and officially change their birth certificates."

In Ohio, Tennessee and Idaho, even post-op women are "legally men" because in those states birth certificates cannot be corrected. In Kansas, Texas and Florida, courts have held that surgery does not effectuate a "change" and they use junk science (gross shape of 23rd chromosome pair) as if it is fact.

In New York, one is legally female for all purposes for which a driver's license is used, based on a letter from a medical or mental health professional. Birth certificate regulations in New York still require that one be post-op. This is under a legal challenge as being arbitrary and capricious.

It is an oversimplification to use surgery as a bright line determination as to who has completed transition. There is a growing movement to accept the more modern scientific view that trans people are biologically different and never really belong to the original assigned sex. By the process of medical and/or surgical transition, the predominant sex in a binary sense is that of the unassigned sex.

We are constrained by an artificial binary - it works somewhere around 99+% of the time - but for those of us who do not exactly fit, a sane and decent society would allow us to live in dignity.

so, i'm a "half-blown" female? wtf?!?!?

Sad sad and I don't buy at Mcdonald and haven't for years....

RAAAAAAGE! Fuck McDonald's. Fuck these IGNORANT employees, but most of all the perps who should be hung by their balls in the town square...along with every immoral pastor, minister, and Rethuglican who goes out of their way to foment hate against the LGBT community. DESPICABLE.

Rebecca, I agree with you. This is not just about the nasty part of the "human" condition, ie, the MacDonald's workers, this is about Equality Maryland and any other State Group that has put Marriage first or looked to incrementalize Trans Rights by buying in to the Radical Right's messaging about Public Accommodation.

What EQMD did regarding HB 235 was reckless and it left our fellow human beings, the transgender and transsexual community without basic protections.

Cathy Brennan | April 22, 2011 5:45 PM

Tom, this is an incredibly irresponsible statement if you said it and just plain wrong. Anti-discrimination laws will never stop someone intent on violence. Period. For you to try to put blame on anyone other than the perpetrators is shameful.

Then Cathy, I guess we don't need hate crime laws or anything else. By allowing the Radical Right to use the "Bathroom Bill" argument, it demonizes the Trans community by making it a suspect class in the bathrooms. We all know that transwomen are the last group that would attack anyone in a ladies room, and even the proponents of this message don't believe it either, but it works to scare leges and some of the electorate off these bills. By not taking a strong armed approach and messaging the bathroom argument, Equality Groups take the easy way out as EQMD did.

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 6:18 PM

I don't support hate crimes laws so, yes, we don't need hate crimes laws.

It is wrong and irresponsible to conflate antidiscrimination protections with violent acts of individuals intent to do harm. Antidiscrimination laws do not protect people from violence, and it's simply false to state otherwise. I would encourage EqMD to do what it can to reach out to this woman, and I for one with see what resources I can provide to help her.

What will you do, Tom?

Richie Madden | April 22, 2011 7:20 PM

Hate crime laws often need explaining to those who don't need them. This crime, without hate crime laws, would do two things: embolden those with hate in their heart toward a minority group to attack any of it's members for no other reason, and bring fear to any member of that group that any member of a given society might bring harm to them just for being of a minority group. Hate crime laws are very important to protect the lives of minorities.

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 8:29 PM

I don't agree with this, and as a progressive that does not support further criminalization of behaviors for which sufficient punishments exist, I reject this. But I don't feel strongly about talking about this on this thread given that it's unimportant at the moment and in light of the violent attack on this woman. If you want to email me, do so. bugbrennan@gmail.com

Richie Madden | April 23, 2011 5:52 AM

That's fine, no need to discuss further. Some understand, some don't.

friday jones | April 22, 2011 7:29 PM

Look, if we're LEGALLY ALLOWED to be in the bathroom that coincides with out gender presentation then there will be FAR LESS challenging of our right to use the appropriate rest room. Right now the public is convinced that it's ILLEGAL for a "man" to be in the woman's rest room.

In this case, Vernon Hackett (the employee at McDonalds who posted the video)has stated that this assault began because "a man" was using the woman's room and was challenged by the women in the video.

That's also the reason people in the sound track could be heard laughing instead of breaking up the fight, and why the McDonalds employees videoed the incident on their phones rather than intervening: They all were on the side of the perpetrators, because they all thought that it is illegal for the person who was assaulted to be in the rest room she was in.

I don;t know why you have such a bug up your ass about public accommodations laws for trans women, Cathy, but it's weird how you, a cis woman, seem to always have a comment on trans woman issues and always seem to be on the wrong foot about it.

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 8:01 PM

You say: "I don;t know why you have such a bug up your ass about public accommodations laws for trans women."

Putting aside the fact that this is a vulgar thing to say, if you have any ability to read, you would know that I support anti-discrimination laws based on gender identity. If you referring to the debate over Maryland's HB 235, this was a disagreement on strategy.

I find it interesting that you, an anonymous, Internet person, would presume I identify as cis or anything for that matter. I reject this "cis" bullshit as the bullshit it is. People who do not identify as trans are often perceived as the opposite gender, and we as nonconforming gender people care about these issues as well. Just because we do not embrace your "lingo" does not make our concerns any more or less valid.

Finally, who gives a shit about any of this atm? Really. A woman has been beaten to nearly an inch of her life, and you folx are bringing up public accommodations, as if that has any bearing on why she was beaten?

A woman has been beaten to nearly an inch of her life, and you folx are bringing up public accommodations, as if that has any bearing on why she was beaten?
She was beaten for trying to use public accommodations by people who thought she had no right to do so, Cathy.

And bystanders laughed - you can hear that on the video - because they thought she had no right to do so either.

That you ignore that obvious fact and try de-railing says a lot about your wilful blindness on this issue.

Anti-discrimination laws can start the education process.

In 1998, Three white men in Jasper Texas who dragged that poor black man James Byrd to death behind their behind their pick-up truck

If this had happened in the 1950's, the perpetrators would have been seen as having good clean fun.

In the early 1960's they might have been arrested, but an all-white jury would have let them off.

In the late 1990's, a jury convicted them.

Had the civil rights act of 1964 not been passed, it is likely that even in the 1990's those men might have been seen as having good clean fun.

Laws like that do not change prevailing societal attitudes in a day - but over a generation, progress can be made.

Passing an anti-discrimination law today willstart the education going in earnest.

Chris Cook | April 22, 2011 6:17 PM

Tom

You continue to be the man of frustration. Are you telling us that a law would have stopped this? It would certainly say - you can use a bathroom-, but it would not ever stop someones bias and hate.

Chris cut it with the personal jabs.

Cathy, you know as well as I do that when laws are set in place they begin a conversation from HR to the courts to the shelters to the police to business owners etc. in Massachusetts we used this as a talking point with our bill. Of course a law does not stop prejudice, but maybe just maybe if it had been in place and were part of the public dialogue, a MacDonalds worker may have stepped in to stop this after it began, instead of saying, "Hey that's a dude..."

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 7:03 PM

Tom, I strongly disagree with you and what you are saying, and I think you are engaging in irresponsible behavior when you make those statements. Merely repeating your false statements does not make an argument true or more valid.

With all due respect, Tom is right. While anti-discrimination laws may not prevent hate crimes, they are part of the fabric that starts changing society at it's roots. They start changing the perspectives of citizens, and changing the underlying social attitude. So, before you start attacking someone else's views, perhaps you should consider that your own perspective may not be right, and be open to hearing an opposing opinion, because there just might be some good information that you hadn't considered. The responses to Tom's comments are the same underlying arrogance (I'm right, you're wrong, there's no room for anything that disagrees with me) that results in such attacks in the first place.

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 8:26 PM

You say: So, before you start attacking someone else's views, perhaps you should consider that your own perspective may not be right, and be open to hearing an opposing opinion, because there just might be some good information that you hadn't considered.

First of all, I was responding to Tom's attack on Equality Maryland and those of us who, in good faith, supported HB 235. So, I actually didn't even raise this issue.

You then state: The responses to Tom's comments are the same underlying arrogance (I'm right, you're wrong, there's no room for anything that disagrees with me) that results in such attacks in the first place.

Are you kidding? This is an absurd statement. You think a civil discussion, sometimes heated, on the Interwubs is the same underlying arrogance that leads to violence such as that perpetrated in Rosedale? I don't know what kind of company you keep, but I reject this statement for the falsity it represents.

Keep trying though, I enjoy the back and forth.

At the very least, anti-discrimination laws make the crime more punishable when it goes to court. Without the laws, the most the 2 women might be charged with would be "assault".

Kathy Padilla | April 22, 2011 7:17 PM

Yes, Tom. The language used to dehumanize trans women in particular recently in MD - including Sen Pres Miller saying that our equality was anti-family - sets a tone in society & a perception of a people's value.

Accepting that full equality set's another tone. Tacit acceptance of the bathroom arguments by advocates - has effects on public perception of a people as well.

I have no idea how things work in the US and/or what the legal position for bathroom use is over there. However, from the UK, i'd say that the fact that the law here makes it absolutely plain that i have a right to use facilities that are gender appropriate for me makes life very, very much easier.

I was recently subject to a threat from a male when i made use of female changing facilities at my local leisure centre. More details here (but apologies to moderators and please remove the link if that breaks your board terms): http://janefae.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/threats-bluster-and-being-scared/

The point is, the guy was not just out of order, but just plain wrong. In the aftermath, the leisure centre were absolutely brilliant, affirming absolutely my right to have been where i was. The local police had words with the guy and told him he was lucky he wasn't arrested and charged.

I was upset at the time...but the fact that i know 100% i ws not "in the wrong" goes a long way to provide confidence to stand up for yourself.

Now imagine if i didn't have that support from officials and police...far nastier outcome.

jane
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Cathy Brennan | April 22, 2011 5:39 PM

If you believe that gender identity protections are more important than civil marriage, sign this: http://www.change.org/petitions/hey-maryland-anti-discrimination-protections-based-on-gender-identity-matter-more-than-marriage

Thank you Cathy, good activism on your part. I signed!

Cathy Brennan | April 22, 2011 5:56 PM

Please share widely as you see fit.

I'd like to know if there's a petition requiring these employees to be fired AND for folks to boycott McDonald's? This is despicable!

About the manager: He may or may not have been required to actually step into the middle of the fight (many employers do not require a manager to risk physical injury in such a situation and in fact many companies specifically forbid it), but he was certainly required to provide what aid he could. That woman was having a seizure on the floor of his restaurant and he did nothing to help her. It's not only morally disgraceful, but also probably a violation of McDonald's corporate policy. At minimum he should lose his job, and if she has permanent injury he, McDonald's, and the franchisee can and should be sued.

He was required to step in because HE IS A FUCKING HUMAN BEING

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 7:22 PM

Agreed completely.

My girlfriend and I witnesses a large attack between two groups of people in Hampden, Baltimore City a few months ago. We and one other person were the only people who tried to intervene and call the police. Everyone else - and it was a large group watching - either watched, cheered it on, or filmed it. It is very disturbing and sad. But of course, this phenomenon is nothing new - i.e., Kitty Genovese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

I absolutely agree that the manager should be severely reprimanded and punished, hopefully with job loss and civil suit.

Although I do have to say, we didn't see the outcome of the seizure. When someone has a seizure, the best you can do is try to support their head, wait for it to stop, and then roll them into the recovery position and wait for paramedics. You're not supposed to try to move them. And it appeared that the manager WAS trying to get the assailants out of the restaurant and away from the woman, so he might have been at least doing something right there.

I'm not trying to defend him in any way. I'm just saying that, for the sake of my hope for humanity, I'm hoping he actually did something--just not enough.

laura goodspeed | April 22, 2011 5:46 PM

I think it's awesome that the reporter simply identified her as a woman, prior to speaking with her. It protects her identity/safety if she isn't out as Trans. AND, it was accurate: she IS a woman. Period. The specifier that she happens to be transgendered (vs cisgendered) is merely that: a specifier. A WOMAN was attacked.

Yes, we need to educate people about the specific violence perpetrated on Trans women & men, but not before we have an individual's consent to publicly ID them as such. Good job, reporter on this case!!!

Themiscyra | April 22, 2011 6:32 PM

I have to applaud the reporter in this situation as well. Too often the coverage starts with "a man" or "a man dressed as a woman" instead of, correctly, "a woman".

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Bilerico, first off I want to thank you for putting this out there. With that out of the way, I'd like to ask you to revise the heading of the article: She is a trans woman, not a transwoman; you don't say whitewoman, blackwoman, hispanicwoman, lesbianwoman, etc, since it takes away from their humanness, you give them the respect of being white AND a woman, black AND a woman, hispanic AND a woman, lesbian AND a woman.

Again, thank you for putting this out there. I will be sharing this out with everyone I know.

Since "trans" is an abbreviation of transgender or transsexual, it is not in this context a prefix. "transwoman" is not just grammatically incorrect, it is othering.

For that matter, hyphenation is unnecessary.

"Trans woman" is the correct usage. That is to say, "trans" as an adjective, and "woman" as noun.

Richie Madden | April 22, 2011 7:26 PM

Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't kno and will correct myself in he future. Peace! :)

No, it's not. I'm a trans woman, not a transwoman. The space means something!

suspect class | April 23, 2011 1:37 PM

It's not, and since when is wikipedia a better source for what words trans women use than trans women themselves?

Good point, Me. I hadn't thought of that and regularly use transman or transwoman. I won't now. That makes sense to me. Headline fixed.

Anja Flower | April 22, 2011 6:50 PM

I agree - I much prefer "trans woman" to "transwoman."

Here is a copy of the letter I sent to McDonalds:

Dear Sir or Madam,

I have just recently seen a video of a transgender woman being brutally attacked on April 18 at your McDonald's in Rosedale, in the 6300 block of Kenwood Ave.

This cellphone video, taken by one of your employees, shows the transwoman being repeatedly beaten for over three minutes by at least two patrons while your manager and employees do almost nothing to stop them.

The best aid that this beaten woman gets is from another one of your patrons--an elderly woman who basically has to say, leave this girl alone, or are you going to hit me too?

I am appalled that your employees and manager acted in such a manner.

I think I am most disgusted by the employee who took the video, because he actively aids one of the attackers, giving her back her cellphone from inside the restaurant after she's asked to leave and advising her to flee before the police arrive as the beaten woman lays at his feet seizing and bleeding.

I refuse to step foot in another McDonald's restaurant. I no longer consider them places that respect equality or personal safety.

I request a response from somebody on this issue and to receive updates on how your chain intends to correct the situation--you should seriously consider paying that woman's medical bills and awarding her damages for her suffering and your employees' negligence--and how you intend to prevent events like this in the future.

I will be tracking this event.

Sincerely,

Desiree

Draygon Forsee | April 22, 2011 5:50 PM

I am completly upset and disgusted by this video. So being an out lesbian things like this occur more than people know. i have been comfronted when going to the bathroom before, and told how disgusting that i am for just being a lesbian. The way that the employees acted in the situation i will now have to find a different fast food restraunt, because i don't want to have to wonder if i am going to get attacked while trying to get my McFlurry on. To the employees that stood by and did nothing, may you one day feel the same pain that you allowed to happen. To the person that was attacked my prayers are with you and i wish you a speedy recovery,and never stop being who you are because of two hateful idiots. To the two idiots dressed like skanky hoes i hope that you find your self in the middle of all of the pain you caused for no reason, and i pray that you have no way to escape it.

To paraphrase a friend, who paraphrased a movie:

To you, this is a horrible act of violence and hatred.

To us, it's Friday.

THIS FUCKING ANIMALS!!! WHAT FUCK!! I WAS JUST WATCHING THE NEWS ABOUT A TEEN WHO WAS BURNED, BEATING AND CUT UP BY FELLOW TEENS...PEOIPLE ;LIKE THIS NEED TO BE GONE ....BANISHED ....WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS? IT DISCUST ME TO NO END!!! POOR THING LAYING THERE AND NO ONE BUT, THAT LADY TRIED TO HELP AND SHE WAS HOLDING ON TO THE LADYS LEG FOR DEAR LIFE!! TUU! (SPIT ON YOU)

You must live near Orlando. I have been tracking that one.

About this one: I live fulltime as female, even though I do not "pass". I go to college, and I do not have much of a problem with it, but I simply will NOT use a public restroom, and this is why. I will NOT ever use a public restroom either, until the attitudes of people change. It is simply too dangerous.

this is but one side of the story. I wasn't there, so I don't know what, if any, steps WERE taken by the staff and/or manager (such as calling 911), BUT, I will say that anyone trained in first aid knows to just stand back and let a person having a seizure...have their seizure without interference. Yes, remove objects close by that may be hazardous, but leave them alone. That was probably construed as "The manager and employees simply watch as the victim starts to have a seizure and offer no help whatsoever." And I wouldn't want someone who might be a man dressed as a woman coming into the restroom with me. I'd try to keep "him" out....who knows if he's a whacko who's going to overpower me and rape me in the bathroom at knifepoint? There are 3 sides to every story. Is it possible the employees filmed it on their phones so it could be possibly used later by law enforcement authorities if need be? Sorry, just had to post an opinion on an obviously one sided article. Not to say I'm right on with any of it, but it is possible.

Themiscyra | April 22, 2011 6:25 PM

Transgender women are not men, and your attitude is why we suffer.

Anja Flower | April 22, 2011 6:33 PM

Trans women are not men, and we deserve access to bathrooms as much as anyone else, without violent recrimination. What part of that don't you get?

Oh please, you're making excuses for these people. The guy taking the video was laughing while they attacked her. If he was trying to be useful he would have actually tried to restrain one of the girls. You can sit there and try to be "objective" all you want about this, but they had NO excuse to beat that woman, and there was no excuse for employees to stand back while she was being beaten. Stop making excuses for blatant transphobia, and I'd argue that your comment in itself is transphobic. There is no excuse for assault and discrimination.

Her comment is a valid point. How would the women in the bathroom not know they were going to be attacked? Maybe the trans woman harassed them in some way and we just didn't hear about it.

Even if she made a comment, that doesn't mean that she should be subjected to such a savage beating. No one should be beaten like that, a comment made or not.

How about we don't blame the victim here. Fair?

How would the women in the bathroom not know they were going to be attacked? Maybe the trans woman harassed them in some way and we just didn't hear about it.

Whether anyone wants to hear this or not, a part of this comment is valid. Certainly, the authorities are going to have to ask this basic question as part of a complete investigation. I would hope that we all would expect that to occur if the roles of the trans and non-trans people in the video were reversed.

However...

Even if it is determined that the person who, per the video, is the victim committed some relevant act(s) during the time period before the beginning of the clip that might form the basis for a justification defense by the 14 and 18-year-olds, unless Maryland criminal law is vastly different from the criminal law of other American jurisdictions, the 14 and 18-year-olds became subject to criminal liabilitybb in their own right when they came back and began attacking the woman again after having walked away from her.

...except of course that the victim is Trans. And although that should make no difference, all too often it does.

We all know the cases. Christina Sforza, assaulted in a McDonalds by the manager, and arrested as the result. Maria Louise Roman - broken nose, 10 March 2006, arrested in Florida. And severely beaten, 22 August 2010 in Nevada, again arrested. And so on.

How would the women in the bathroom not know they were going to be attacked?

Preemptive violence against someone who has shown no indication and no reason other than existing and not looking 'normal' is hardly an appropriate response. If they were worried about attack, they could have called the police or talked to a manager. Instead, the beat her to within an inch of her life and set off a seizure.

Victim-blaming is inappropriate and wrong, and no better than saying a woman deserves to be raped for dressing in a 'provocative' way.

Or, more appropriately, it is like saying a woman with big boobs deserves to be raped just because they're sexually appealing. After all, a woman can't control the way her body looks.

Like Themiscyra points out, your attitude about the trans community is why the trans community suffers. You may not have intended to be offensive, but the bottom line is you were. You were horribly, horribly offensive. Your statements only further the myth that trans women are "really men" and out to attack other cis women, which is simply not true. They are trying to live their lives and just go to the flipping bathroom.

It is possible that the employees were filming to use it to help law enforcement, but the way the employee acted towards the very end by giving back an attacker's phone, I'd say it was more of a "holy smokes look at this crazy shit!"

Without a doubt, job action should be taken with these employees and manager. The way they acted was unacceptable. The way the attackers acted was unacceptable. The way Corporate McDonald's acted? Possibly unacceptable, possibly not...depends on the training employees received. How they react to this blatant transphobic crime will determine, for me, whether or not McDonald's Corporate should be held responsible.

This comment has been reported as abusive repeatedly, but Lydia doesn't use slurs or threaten violence, she just offers an opinion that will obviously be unpopular here.

Since the comment seems to have been left in good faith (and not evil intent) as a general comment, I'm going to let it stand. Of course, this shouldn't be taken as agreement with the comment.

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Excuse me, but "Man dressed in women's clothing" for someone who identifies as female is a slur.

This isn't an argument in good faith. This is the argument consistently used to whip up fear and hatred, characterizing trans women as potentially dangerous predators who shouldn't be allowed the simple of dignity of using the correct restroom because someone else might "feel afraid" of what might happen - not even real actual consequences, as there is no statistical evidence that trans women cause any kind of trouble in women's restrooms, but I shouldn't even have to mention this fact.

The woman in this video was battered. She was attacked, and beaten to the point that she had a seizure and you're trying to find excuses as to why her attackers were justified in keeping her out of the women's restroom.

I know good faith when I see it. You're not arguing in it. Your post is basically hate speech.

Lisa, this is it, exactly. I'm in the UK: the law is on my side in this. I have the right to use the gender appropriate facilities, to be Jane on my library card and to be treated in the appropriate hospital wards.

Still, that doesn't prevent incidents. One happened about four weeks back: a guy threatened violence because i was using a women's changing room (even though the women hadn't said a thing to the facilities management). I was incredibly supported by the fact that the site told me i was wholly in the right and the police came and had words with HIM - not me.

Still, to defuse, i am probably doing a talk some time for locals to explain "me". It is very tempting to talk about how hormonal changes mean that even if they don't accept me as female, i ain't male: that i'm effectively neutered and therefore no threat.

Tempting, but i won't, because it panders to those who claim we are a threat and legitimises their accusations.

jane
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Wow Lmao you're pathetic...right here is 1 more reason trans woman have to fight harder for our rights.I hope someday you experience something similar so you may then reflect back on ur own ignorance.and yes I do truly hope it happens to you or maybe ur mother sister or child so maybe you will pull your head out of your ass.now go educate yourself on the topic Transgender now go Google it stupid.

This is an OUTRAGE! This needs to make National News and there should be a worldwide boycott of McDonald's until they step up. These poor excuses for human beings need to be prosecuted along with every McDonald's employee who was there at the time. I still can't believe it. I'm sick at my stomach! Praises to the lady who tried to intervene. F*** you to everyone else there!!! PS: It does not matter if this was a Transgender woman or not, this is a human being!

L Elkins: Can you please provide the statute that the McDonalds employees violated that you think they should be prosecuted under?

Bil, do you or anyone know if she needs any help with expenses? If so, maybe a donation for her or a link to a donation if/when you find out?

bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 6:20 PM

I understand EqMD is already working on this, you should call them.

Themiscyra | April 22, 2011 6:05 PM

Though the employee who filmed and updated the video, one Vernon Hackett, has deleted most of his social media profiles, I believe that @TheeCharmin1 may be a second account on Twitter. Same location, similar name, photo looks like it could be the same guy. Just in case anyone would like to express their outrage directly.

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shelleybear | April 22, 2011 6:10 PM

Two words:
Pink Pistols.

And the resulting national headline:

"Cross-dressing man threatens two women at gunpoint in restroom" (with optional subtitle: "perpetrator gunned down by police")

No thank you.

Sinita Moore | April 22, 2011 6:13 PM

Its utterly disgusting that the staff didn't bother to step up and even worse filmed it. They should not only be sacked but also fined with a massive compensation to the victim, a compensation with which they will have years to pay it off, such as 50.000 dollar or so...and if they can't pay it, then tough, let them do regular working hours free of charge where the money they earn that way get to the victim.

Mc Donalds, I am more than happy to avoid you as personally I am not a big fan of fast food anyway :o) well done :o)

I agree that this had better make national news, just as it would if it were a black woman being repeatedly beaten by two white women, or someone repeatedly being attacked for being Jewish or Muslim. I can understand how in the heat of the moment, a manager might not know what to do, but these vicious attackers came back AGAIN AND AGAIN even after leaving the victim. Why didn't they just leave the building? The manager should at the very least have forbidden them reentry and demanded that his employees bar their reentrance while he attended to the victim and called 911.

OK, this attack happened in MD. I freely admit that after my shock and horror after seeing what happened abated a little, I went there.. I thought about HB235 and the lack of PA language.

Now, that line of thought right now is NOT HELPFUL. A young woman was beaten because she (I assume) tried to use the restroom or was identified as trans. NOT TO MAKE YOUR OR MY POLITICAL STATEMENT. This is about a young women, who is a victim of a much larger trend of increasing violence against trans women. This is not about poking EqMD, discussing race relations, or rehashing trans political strategies.

Can we, please, take a moment and make sure she is OK and her needs are being met? Can we wait before we start assigning blame on things like political strategies - they are important discussions... but are they right now?

Do you happen to have the EXACT adress of that MC? I'm gonna give them a really bad feedback asap!!!!!

Feel realy bad for the girl, hope all of the employees lose their phones & job, get a really bad feedback from their boss & also these girls... Let them die in prison okay? These sick people polute our environment!!

The MSM has been slow to report this confirmed as a transgender victim. Very, sad video. Moreover, the comments on all the links to this story are even worse. To somehow blame the workers is distracting to what happened.

Violence makes victims out of everyone: the woman assaulted, her family members, the patrons watching and yes even the employees. I know that sounds bizarre to say, but please lets not make the employees the enemy in this video. That plays directly into the hands of the conservatives who want LGBTQ and African Americans to duke this one out publicly. So let's not fall into the blame game here. Those two women who beat the crap out of that victim are the issue here, let justice be swift on them.

Incidentally, many corporations do not allow employees to "get involved" in store fights. In fact, many companies make policies where if you do get involved, you will lose your job, your health insurance claims if injured and also be held liable if it escalates the violence. So let's point our fingers at these policies not the workers who might be forced to follow them.

Violence is horrific and for us to watch this video now and make snap judgements on who stood by to watch and who video tapped, is not helpful to end the real issue--violence in society against women and transgender. Focus your angry and emotions on stopping violence against women not blaming the black man with a phone camera.

The man with the phone camera posted that video online and heaped verbal abuse on the victim. He behaved abominably and deserves to be fired for his actions.

This is freaking insane. Every single one of those employees don't deserve their jobs there. This majorly goes to the manager AND the idiot who filmed this. I am steaming with anger right now. They could have done so much more to prevent further attacking. But no. The victim had to be helplessly dragged across the floor twice, had to have an elderly woman intervene, AND had to go into a seizure before someone demanded help. Seriously.. is there anything you could do besides just yell stop!? Ugh... what animals..

Patricia Harlow Patricia Harlow | April 22, 2011 6:26 PM

It's $h17 like this that reminds me I need to buy a gun.

It is never the time to wait when it comes to ending social injustice or stop a person from being beaten.

This makes me sick. I actually want to punch and kick the two bitches that did this. Turnabout is fair play. If anyone knows how to contact the girl that was beaten, or if there is a link to her facebook page or something so we can morally (or otherwise) support her, please post the info.

Thanks!

Richie Madden | April 22, 2011 6:34 PM

Same here! ;)

This makes me sick. I actually want to punch and kick the two bitches that did this. Turnabout is fair play. If anyone knows how to contact the girl that was beaten, or if there is a link to her facebook page or something so we can morally (or otherwise) support her, please post the info.

Thanks!

has GetEqual rolled up there yet?

well since "trans" is short for transition which is what the woman went through to make her body one with her mind and soul, so once that procedure is complete she is no longer "trans" she is a woman.

How magnanimous of you to define her identity for her! "Trans" is generally a truncation of "transsexual" ot "transgender." How a person identifies before, during, and after transition varies greatly from one individual to the next. I am a trans woman who has transitioned. While in most situations I will identify myself as "woman" I do use "trans woman" when discussing my experiences, for example.

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Disgusting animals. I hope she is okay and I damn well hope she sues MCDonalds and everyone who was involved except the elderly woman who couldn't do much, but at least she tried! Hate crimes sicken me.

laura goodspeed | April 22, 2011 6:57 PM

As far as corporations "not allowing" employees to get in the middle of fights (and this wasn't a fight, actually, it was an attack), I think that's a cop out. Such a "rule" wouldn't even ENTER MY MIND if I witnessed violence like this. Who CARES about my job or my corporation's rules?! Someone's safety and LIFE are at stake!

Lacey White | April 22, 2011 6:57 PM

As a McDonald's employee I would like to say a few things.
Employees are NOT allowed to intervene in customer altercations under the risk of a lawsuit. The manger can ONLY ask the perpetrators to leave and then if needed call the police. They are not allowed to do anything after that. If they do it it grounds to be fired. The manager did what his job allowed.
When and if a video is taken, it is suppose to be used as police evidence if there are no security camera's. This is Policy.
The crew members did not know that this was a transgender attack. For all they knew it was an altercation over a boy. So please don't lash out on the ignorance of the employees.

I AM NOT saying that posting it on the internet is okay. It angers me that it did and I hope something happens to the employee that did post it.
It is sad that this happened but the employees hands were tied. ONLY managers can intervene. And they CANNOT get physical at all.
This makes me sick. It really does, but I understand why the manager couldn't intervene and I hope you take this into consideration before you jump up and attack McDonalds. If I personally was there I would have lost my job because I would have fought for that poor girl. But some people can't afford to lose there jobs and jeopardize their families for someone they don't know.
I really hope that someone helps this girl with her medical bills and everything else, it is sad that this happens. It breaks my heart.

Bullcrap, is it also McDonald's corporate policy that employees laugh while filming a person get beaten up, post that video to their personal websites and profiles, tell the criminals to run away so they don't get caught by the police. Because as someone who actually works in HR rather than a minimum wage drone trying to make excuse under the banner of corporate policy. Due to these employee's action, McDonald's is going to have nice lawsuit on their hands and you can bet that's not corporate policy.

Not to mention it's just disgusting that you would try to defend any of these scumbags behavior. Then again you do work for McDonald.

A job is not worth becoming dehumanize to the point you can't assist someone in distress. Sorry, but corporations do not dictate to me what my human decency should be. It is morally up to me to make a decision to do the right thing. Unfortunately some people don't know what "do the right thing means". Sometimes it means sticking your neck out for you fellow man or sister.

As a transgender woman, I am outraged that employees would just tape the scene. Videotaping the scene is good and bad. Good, to use as evidence, but bad because it is now on the internet and the woman attacked is humiliated. Even if the employees had a problem with a transgender person, they at least need to report the incident.

I just wanted to say that the attacks I've been seeing on the employees are pretty unwarranted. Having worked in retail and fast food and seen fights happen in both stores, I want to say that it was very advisable for the employees A) to film the attack for later use in investigation and B) to allow the woman to have her seizure. As somebody else has already pointed out, it is the correct action to leave a person having a seizure alone. Picking them up or moving them can leave them open for injuries. Chances are they will come out of it unharmed when it is over, especially if they are prone to seizures and have experienced them before. However, posting the video to youtube was irresponsible. The video should only have been used for litigation purposes and as evidence in the police's investigation... The general employees have no right to step into matters best handled by their manager, and did the appropriate thing by standing there. Sure, it is a sad thing to have to stand there while somebody is getting beaten, but I've had to do it multiple times. The manager, on the other hand, who did nothing to stop the repeated attacks, will endure punishment by losing his job, this I foresee with absolute certainty (if McDonald's wants to maintain their reputation amongst the public, it is literally the only thing they CAN do.)

Police don't show up in three minutes, guys... Get over that. There's no possible way they could have unless they were very close to the McDonald's.

If the women in question did ask whether the woman was transgendered when she was in the bathroom, it was her right to speak out against them. IT'S A BATHROOM. It's where people do their private business. Sure, they have the right to ask whether she is a man or a woman, but to attack her after she said she was trans is entirely unwarranted. Besides, even if you are opposed to transgendered lifestyle, she was apparently doing you no harm, just as another woman is doing you no harm by sitting in the stall next to you.

Honestly, I would recommend that any transgendered person who feels threatened after watching this attack go to the men's room. Seriously, I've never seen anybody attacked in a men's bathroom. Come to think of it, men barely talk or look at each other in the bathroom. And I'm sure they wouldn't mind seeing a woman in the bathroom, either. Nor would they tell them to leave lololololol.

All joking aside, the attack was surely malicious and terrible, BUT the only people we should be attacking in turn are the women in question.

While I agree with your conclusion that the blame here is on the perpetrators of this disgusting attack, I have to take issue with your assertion that transwomen who fear for their safety should use the men's room.

It's clearly uncomfortable for most women to share a bathroom with strange men. Asking one small group of women to subject themselves to that because another small group doesn't think the first are "really women" is only making excuses for savage and disturbing behavior. I, for one, do not believe that fear should play any part in determining where one should use the restroom.

My heart goes out to the victim, and I hope the individuals responsible for that brutality are held fully accountable for their actions. I pray that should I ever find myself in a similar situation that the people nearby will show enough humanity to intervene regardless of corporate policy.

so you want us to degrade ourselves by using the guys toilets, confirming peoples thoughts that we arent women just so people feel safe?

i hope like hell that someday shit like this will stop! I'm the proud son of a gay woman. if you come to my town (in the bible belt)not one person would stand for this sort of wonton cruelty. not on my worst day would i stand by and let my worst enemy take that kind of a beating from two large women
this is sick

After reading and seeing I took the action of writting a nastygram to McDonalds.

After 3 assaults at McDonalds I've come to the conclusion that going to ANY McDonalds is unsafe for me and until they do make a positive statement regarding these instances then I simply won't go to a McDonalds. Like I said in the email I have Wendy's, Burger King, Arbys, White Castle and more to choose from.

so so sad, The Kudallini energy is risen in even one, in this time the IGNORANCE ONE rather white, black pink purple fat or skinny will be bothered and upset and will begin to start acting crazy. in this physical sense this women and those men watching will have there day. STUPID MO FO's sat back and more concerned with helping the attackers get away than calling the police to assist the transwomen. WHEN WILL THIS WORLD STAND UP FOR HUMAN EQUALITY? AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO STAND SEPERATE WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE TOGETHER. MORE CATASTROPHIC WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, EARTHQUAKES TSUNAMI, FALLING MOUNTAINS, VOLCANOE ERUPTIONS ETC. IT IS GOD PLAN FOR US TO STAND TOGETHER AND ACCEPT ALL OF OUR DIVERSITY. AND ITS A DAMN SHAME SOME COWARDS WONT TOLERATE.

If the employee holding the phone recording the attack sees her having a seizure why not STOP RECORDING and call an ambulance. There is no reason to record attacks of any sort and this just shows how terrible people can be. Why stand by and watch when there were clearly enough people to defend the girl. Just because you see someone being beaten doesn't make it okay to stand by and watch or ignore it and walk away, even if you do "agree" with the reason they are being beaten. No one EVER deserves to be treated this way. Those girls need serious help and THEY need to pay for that girl's medical expenses because they are they ones that caused the pain, not McDonalds. However I do agree that McDonalds needs to apologize to that woman in a very generous way for not doing something while the attack was going on.

I think people are not keeping in mind getting involved in violence means getting sued and thrown in jail to. Been there done that, sad to say aside from yelling stop there is not much I would do. Im not getting sued sorry. I'd call the police and try yelling stop but anything is not worth it in the twisted sad society. Can't deny, you get involved, someone video's then uses it against you. Sad sad world.

I would rather get sued stopping someone from being beaten so much that they have a seizure or die than stand by and watch. I have more respect for people's well being than not having money. You should probably reconsider your morals. And don't try to say "oh its because you're not gay, you don't understand." I am gay, I do understand, and I WILL fight for everyones rights, if it means being sued then fine.

As a trans CCW holder myself, and someone who rarely goes out unarmed nowadays, this situation would have been a tricky one. Odds are you would have had several weeks in jail for shooting one of the attackers (especially the minor), when there was no obviously 'lethal' force present on their part, and you probably would have done considerable jail time...unless one of them pulled a knife or started using an improvised weapon.

But then again, you probably would not have had to shoot one of them...just having the weapon visible would likely have discouraged the situation from escalating.

I live in Arizona where the laws on self defense are probably not as draconian as they are in MD.

The behavior of the employees is sickening and I will be sending a personalized version of Desirees mail to McDonalds corporate.

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umm this is so descraseful some ppl are so imaturre i have a brother who is just like the poor girl who got beat and ahh i think mac donalds needs to start getting after there employies for letting this go on .. and those woman shoud be ashamed of them selfs for attacking this poor woman .. i cant stand ppl who judge other ppl and a transgeandered woman is not a man its a woman so yeh they should be allowed ro use the womans bathroom .. not like they want the other woman who use it .. my goodness ppl need to think before getting into action .. this is horrible to think that our world is so discriminating towards people

They attacked her because she wanted to use the women's restroom. THIS IS A HATE CRIME.

The people who did that need to be sent to jail for a long time.
The people who filmed it need to be suspended, not fired.
Yeah doing nothing is wrong, but it's also not a crime, some people just don't have it in them to step up for others.
You can't punish them for that, at least it was filmed so when a trial happens there is evidence.

As for McDonald's needs to pay, be fined etc...
You can't control what employees do in a situation like that.
If they have a policy that says you must step in and protect and then the employee gets hurt they will end up suing McD.

This comes down to personal responsibility and personal actions.
You can't punish a bystander, and you can't punish a company for the crimes of others.

Some people today have no value for human life.No matter what race ,color or gender you may be doese not give another person the right to beat on them .we are a world of many differant beleafs but like i said it doese not excuse any one who abuses another human.WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS

baltimorian | April 22, 2011 8:27 PM

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bugbrennan | April 22, 2011 8:27 PM

Bill - Can you also zap the misogyny? People saying bitches is offensive.

Well no matter what her gender why did they allow the beating to happen and why did they not dial 911 form the start of this little beat down of one of there coustomers by other coustomers? I can realte to haveing a polciy of not getting into it but failure to notify the police in a timely manner should be a charge filed against the manager at the very least.

Not sure if any one else noticed they almost left several times but kept coming back once out the door they should have immedetly locked them and called for medical ade as that was hair and blood all over the floor.

That was one of the first things I noticed.

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This is a HATE CRIME. period. no one would be another human like this, gang up on her and also stand around and watch it all take place without lots of HATE being there.

It is first and foremost RACE related. I understand the author and others shying away from first and foremost obvious fact, but shying away doesn't change it. I wonder if the tables were turned if this would be all over national news and riots breaking out, etc? If this young woman is Trans then besides a Race Hate Crime it would also then be Trans. gender identity hate and God only knows all the other reasons for their HATE. SAD. Terrible world and violent society we live in.

Om Kalthoum | April 22, 2011 8:49 PM

Hopefully, soon enough we'll have more information on this brutal attack: the 911 recording(s), the account of the beating victim, the two criminals administering the beating, the employees, the older female customer who tried to help, the police report.

I'm sure we all like to think we would have been brave and strong enough to stop this violence. Unfortunately, in the world some of these people live in, fights are a common occurrence and attackers also carry weapons in their purses or their cars, or they go home and get their older male relatives to come back after the police have gone and deal even more lethally with anyone who "disrespected" them.

Phil Osopher | April 22, 2011 8:52 PM

If you noticed she had a seizure at the end of the video.
The people working at the McDonald's should be fire.

Phil

The manager is most at fault. 1) He should have ordered at least one employee to call the police and let the attackers know he had done so 2) He should have locked the door behind the attackers when they left 3) He should have ordered his employees to STOP filming. Everyone in this video except the elderly lady is a sociopath. Reminds me I need to take self-defense lessons.

Also - this doesn't look at all like a transgender female just based upon the build (arms, hips, etc). . . . That's not really the point. Either way, I hope this person recovers enough to give full testimony of what happened.

Dita delisha Hadley | April 22, 2011 9:02 PM

this is a disgraceful and despicable act done to a woman who had obviously had some sort of problem to cauze seizure after being kicked and punched and dragged by so called women , who are just bullys .This is hate crime at its worst , I have great sympathy for the trans woman , being transsexual myself I do feel for her. I also feel the Mcdonalds staff who filmed it should be sacked and new procedures should be put in place for these people , education the likely source....

I wrote this to McDonalds
"Re: incident in Baltimore: How can you tolerate employees not only allowing a customer to be attacked,but then videotaping the attack and releasing it on the Internet? You have reached out admirably to so many communities, and I would hope one of them would be the GLBT community.

Trans women are WOMEN, just like any other, and more importantly they are your customers.

The manager's response was anemic, the employees should be fired, and the two female customers should be prosecuted for assault.I'm sure you are appalled to have your name linked to violence. "

TheMidnightRunner | April 22, 2011 9:08 PM

The woman in white who intervened on behalf of the victim should be given a medal. The fact that one woman had courage to verbally and physically stand up against the two attackers while the manager and employees did effectually nothing? That's heroism.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke

In all of the reporting I have seen on this, the police have reported the victim as "a woman", without mention of any other gender or sexual identity. I think I will wait for further reportage and confirmation on that aspect. What a horrific beating for any person to suffer.

Watching this video made me sick to my stomach. If any good can come from this, I hope it's so that more people will come to better understand the hate, judgment, and bigotry that transpeople have to face in simply living their lives, and maybe learn some compassion :/

I have many thoughts to this - it's pretty disgusting all around. That the McDonald's employees and managers barely did anything, that people stood back and laughed. It's pretty much a sign of the times.

This thread is pretty awful, too:

What is up with people saying she's not trans because the reporter described her as a woman? What is wrong with y'all? Since she's a woman, why is it strange for her to be described as one?

What is up with the people who are concern trolling about trans women using the restroom? You people are so full of it. Trans women are no more a danger in restrooms than cis women are. This bullshit fearmongering over anatomy is nothing more than right wing scare tactics. It's nothing more than transphobia and hatred of trans women with a fake veneer of decorum. What kind of human being tries to start a debate over someone's right to use a restroom?

And so much racism.

You should see all of the racism getting zapped already. I've never seen anything like it on Bilerico. Each TOS violation has been for incredibly disgusting blatantly racist slurs. It's sickening.

not to mention all the classist comments about the employee's and attackers (did all yall forget the woman attacked was probably working class to?)

Stephen Jay | April 22, 2011 9:44 PM

It is not explicit from the footage alone that ALL employees were involved in promoting this act of hateful violence. However severe disciplinary measures clearly need to be taken, those responsible accounted for, and dismissed under gross misconduct.

The rest falls under federal battery and hate laws which I'm not familiar with, not being American, but standing by in shock and fear is NOT a reason to be convicted. Helping is heroic, and it is a valiant option to risk one's safety for another. It is not law to do so. It's simply decent and those doing so should be applauded. I wish more people would.

Another thing worth noting is that I'm almost positive that McDonald's Training, if it's anything like other retail induction, will include instructing their employees NOT to endanger themselves and to alert the proper authorities who can deal with it under law. In situations like this, anyone risking themselves in breach of such employment safety 'contracts' are especially brave, in a world of tight litigation.

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Tom in Lazybrook | April 22, 2011 9:49 PM

I think that the Gay community should demand that McDonalds pull the franchisees license without compensation. That would get everyone's attention.

Also, I think that McDonalds should be asked to rejoin the LGBT Chamber of Commerce.

That's kinda teriffying... I'm ftm.... And kinda hoping to start school next year as a transman......

Tela Powell | April 22, 2011 10:02 PM

Those girls are a disgrace to the human race. The guy filming and making comments should go to jail for accessory to a crime. I'd give those girls the deal penalty...and I'm typically against it.

Not only should the employees be fired and prosecuted so should the manager that was on duty. I praise the elderly woman for trying to help, had it been me I would have busted those broad's heads myself.

This i s beyond unacceptable and I hope they find the b***hes responsible and throw them in jail.

Stephen Jay | April 22, 2011 10:15 PM

It is not explicit from the footage alone that ALL employees were involved in promoting this act of hateful violence. However severe disciplinary measures clearly need to be taken, those responsible accounted for, and dismissed under gross misconduct.

The rest falls under federal battery and hate laws which I'm not familiar with, not being American, but standing by in shock and fear is NOT a reason to be convicted. Helping is heroic, and it is a valiant option to risk one's safety for another. It is not law to do so. It's simply decent and those doing so should be applauded. I wish more people would.

Another thing worth noting is that I'm almost positive that McDonald's Training, if it's anything like other retail induction, will include instructing their employees NOT to endanger themselves and to alert the proper authorities who can deal with it under law. In situations like this, anyone risking themselves in breach of such employment safety 'contracts' are especially brave, in a world of tight litigation.

Christopher Johnson | April 22, 2011 10:18 PM

This attack is so disgusting and I can't believe that a person cannot walk inside a establishment to use the bathroom without being attacked. What is wrong with these kids? As a black man with a gay relative, I see more and more homophobia in the black community and it is getting out of control. You hear it in the rap lyrics, you even hear it coming from the mouth's of pastors and priests in the churches. When was the last time you heard of a gang of gay people brutally attacking a black person, in the same fashion as this disgusting video?

I really hope these two disgusting individuals are thrown in jail for the longest sentence possible. And I hope the employee's and manager of this establishment are fired. If the first reaction from them was to pull out their cellphone's and videotape the incident, then they lack the character to stand up and protect the consumers that frequent their establishment.

Let's see how fast the NAACP, the black churches, and the black community in general stand up and denounce this attack that seems far too common in the black community. But I wouldn't hold your breath.

shelleybear | April 22, 2011 11:02 PM

I fear they would care little if the transwoman was black.
Their cultural gender issues are even worse then whites

It wasn't too long ago that black people were the victims du jour of this kind of behavior. We properly identified it as racism then and its not inappropriate to ask to what extent racism is a factor in this incident.

This example of uncontrolled emotions violence was perpetrated by two young black women (one was 14 y-o) on a white member of a sub-culture that suffers from demonization and discrimination that is even greater than black people have suffered historically in this society at the hands of white people.

Those who attack transwomen are usually male. It's far rarer to see this kind of violence perpetrated by women. I do not believe this attack is representative of the black community as a whole. I do agree with Christopher about the level of homophobia (and therefore transphobia) in the black community. We saw that in California from Prop 8 exit polls. Not that there's any shortage of seriously transphobic young white women who also feel unconstrained to express their bigotry through violence but I regard them as a whole as more likely to express it verbally ala Mean Girls. It's not a question of either/or rather of prevalence within a given defined population. And so I also agree with Christopher that it's incumbent on the black community to purge itself of this particular form of bigotry.

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Lynn Norris Webb | April 22, 2011 10:20 PM

I am so appalled and saddened that this poor woman was beaten. I am sickened by the lack of intervention by any member of staff, and more to the point that the manager did not stop any of it's employees from filming the entire event. What has happened to humanity that we have to stoop this low?
I am personally writing to McDonalds head office and placing a complaint with them about the store, and lets see if an entire concerned community can get this store shut down. Lets make sure we can boycott McDonalds in one way or another.

AboveTheLaw | April 22, 2011 10:22 PM

I mean, you’re all ignoring the rights of biological women to not have biological men in their bathroom (btw this is from earlier comments, the women in the video should be jailed and are scum and I’m not defending them) Why is gender so uniquely self-selectable? At some point you were born with certain chromosomes and genatalia, and how you choose to dress and act is one thing, but how other choose to receive you (within legal respect for your rights) is another thing. Is race equally transmutable? If my kid decides that he identifies as black, can he dye his skin and check off African American when he applies for college?

Kathy Padilla | April 22, 2011 11:04 PM

It's important to protect people from being forced to assault innocent women.

Perhaps you're really more under the influence?

In the days of segregation, in some states if you were 1/128 Black, you were White and couldn't marry a Black.

In Virginia, you were Black, and couldn't marry a White.

So yes, Race is a social construct, varying from place to place and time to time, though based on obvious and objective biological facts.

Which Race you are is usually pretty obvious: but for some, it's not.

Which Sex you are is usually pretty obvious, but for those of us Trans or Intersexed, the law can vary from place to place, and takes no account of how we identify.

Littleton vs Prange

“Taking this situation to its logical conclusion, Mrs. Littleton, while in San Antonio, Texas, is a male and has a void marriage; as she travels to Houston, Texas, and enters federal property, she is female and a widow; upon traveling to Kentucky she is female and a widow; but, upon entering Ohio, she is once again male and prohibited from marriage; entering Connecticut, she is again female and may marry; if her travel takes her north to Vermont, she is male and may marry a female; if instead she travels south to New Jersey, she may marry a male.”


J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Jan;93(1):182-9

PATIENTS: A 46,XY mother who developed as a normal woman underwent spontaneous puberty, reached menarche, menstruated regularly, experienced two unassisted pregnancies, and gave birth to a 46,XY daughter with complete gonadal dysgenesis.


Nature (1995) 378:68–70.

Our study is the first to show a female brain structure in genetically male transsexuals and supports the hypothesis that gender identity develops as a result of an interaction between the developing brain and sex hormones

So you can take your sickening little cis-privileged snark about "skin dye" and arrogant insistence about the rights of the genetically and somatically pure and ...

the women in the video should be jailed and are scum and I’m not defending them
Yes, as a matter of fact, you are. Own it.
AboveTheLaw | April 23, 2011 2:00 AM

Actually I'm not, and if you could refrain from personal attacks just because I may or may not agree with your view, you'd have more credibility. My comment wasn't in any way directed, or even related, to the actions of the criminals in the video. I am discussing issues pertinent to trans genders and their legal rights, as balanced with the legal rights of those they interact with, at a high level of generality. Our society treats people of different genders differently. Bathrooms ia one superficial issue that reflects a slew of issues: women can't be drafted, can't serve on front lines, there's "lady night" at bars and clubs, "women only" gyms, etc. etc. My point is that a person can identify however they want, but it's another matter whether they can force others to recognize them that way.

You are obviously not a racial minority, otherwise you wouldn't say that race is meaningless. Race and gender are the first identifying traits anyone sees. The race and gender issue are interlinked legally, because of our equal protections, and so we have to identify what race discrimination and gender discrimination are. You skirt the hard questions: Why is it that gender is so transmutable, to the point where others are forced to identify you the way you want to be? I can't force anyone to identify me as white or black for social/legal rights associated with those identifications. I was born one way and that's my legal identity. Why do you get to choose what gender you put on your driver's license, or whether some outside entity recognizes you as female/male, when your biological construct is the opposite? If it's simply a lifestyle choice regarding what you wear, elective surgeries, etc. that's your right and your business, but when you start acting like you are entitled to certain treatments by others, like access to women's only establishments, then your rights start conflicting with the rights of others, and a decision either way will encroach on the rights of someone.

Your hostility reflects someone who is used to being treated only at the extremes: sympathy and adoration or hateful intolerance. I am something you've never encountered: neutral, and totally uncaring either way about what lifestyle choices you've made. But what I do care about is a discussion of the relevant legal issues and entitlements, and just because you're a unique and special snowflake inside doesn't mean the law should afford you entitlements at the expense of others who don't share your views.

Why do you get to choose what gender you put on your driver's license, or whether some outside entity recognizes you as female/male, when your biological construct is the opposite?
Read the last section I quoted.
Our study is the first to show a female brain structure in genetically male transsexuals

You arrogantly assert the cis-sexual right to say what "biological sex" someone else is, despite the facts. You don't bother researching, because you know what the facts must be.

Oh, and I'm not Trans, by the way. I'm Intersexed. Severely. Looks like it's 3-beta-hydroxysteroid-dehydrogenase deficiency from the test records. That can cause a "natural sex change" from male to female, to grossly over-simplify. 5-alpha-reductase-2 deficiency and 17-beta-hydroxysteroid-dehydrogenase-3 deficiency can cause a change in the other direction.

As in www.usrf.org/news/010308-guevedoces.html

In any event, the medical diagnosis in 1985 was "undervirilised male", the one in 2005 "severely androgenised non-pregnant woman". I didn't get a say in it.

As for race - look at the late, unlamented Racial Reclassification Board of Zuid-Afrika.

These tests included measurements of the nose, nostrils, and cheekbones, and an expert analysis of hair texture. The latter often included the ‘pencil test.’ It was thought that a white person’s hair is not so curly to hold a pencil, whereas a coloured person’s hair could. There were gradations of skin color to be measured in various places of the body including the fingernails and the eyelids; earlobes were squeezed to determine their degree of softness. (It was thought that Black person’s earlobes were softer than others.) Individuals challenging their racial classification before the board would also be asked what they had for breakfast (it was thought only blacks would eat mealie or cornmeal porridge), how they slept on a bed, and what sport they enjoyed (blacks were thought to favor soccer while coloured favored rugby).

* Between the years of 1950 and 1966 there were 267,541 individuals who could not be adequately categorized by the apartheid system of racial categorization.

* Estimates for Transgender persons in US : 97,142 – 301,140 persons.

* Estimates of those with severe intersex conditions : 150,570 – 200,760 persons

As I said, please take your arrogant cis-privilege and the rest I leave to your imagination.

Kathy Padilla | April 23, 2011 12:04 PM

Your position relies upon a supposition of some harm coming from accepting women of trans histories as women that you haven't supported or that you have a personal prejudice against them - which you are of course allowed to have - but which of course shouldn't be the basis of law or policy.

Yes - that's bigotry. You don't like them & are uncomfortable by any association with them. You want to limit their perogatives and place them at greater risk of harm to make you feel more comfortable.

I was wrong - really more Beneath the Contempt.

applepiecrust | April 23, 2011 12:10 PM

Your ignorance and transphobia is appalling. Perhaps take a few minutes to google transgender and then come back, before you spew hateful words all over the internet?

Granted, it may be difficult for YOU to comprehend that someone's "biological construct" may not be the same as their experienced gender, but fact is, for many people, they do experience their gender differently than the gender that "normally" corresponds to the sex they were assigned at birth. Doesn't make their experience of gender any less valid. Gender and sex are separate, even if they correspond for many people.

You aren't treating anyone in any sort of new way, you aren't broaching any new territory here. What you are doing, is distracting from the ACTUAL ISSUE with your nonsense. You are, in fact, defending the attackers - you simply aren't supporting their actions.

Now, what this is, is a discussion about an act of violence against a trans woman in a bathroom. This isn't a gender theory class or an introduction to Women's Studies. The fact that any trans people have given you their time to point out seriously basic things that have been discussed over and over and over - IN THE MIDDLE OF A STORY ABOUT A VIOLENT ATTACK - is a testament to their patience, not a testament to your special insight into the relationship between sex and gender.

"I mean, you’re all ignoring the rights of biological women to not have biological men in their bathroom"

AboveTheLaw, I must have missed that part of the Bill of Rights!

Sex-segregated restrooms are a custom, not a right. To the extent they provide a measure of safety, they're a good thing.

But they're not designed to designate a person's gender. As w/ everything else in personal identity, the DEFAULT must rest w/ the individual to self-identify [Though someone abusing an affirmative-action program---are there any of those left?---would raise a counter-question. A question---NOT an assault!]

When I'm in a bathroom (as a genderqueer, I've been in both), I want to be left alone. Why in the world, AboveTheLaw, is that not good enough for you? That you have to be searching between the legs (or put a microscope on the cells!) of the human being in the next stall?

A human embryo does not have the capacity to randomly develop into any of the "races" regardless of family history. Prospective parents do not sit around wondering what race their baby will be. They DO, however, wonder if their baby will be a boy or girl, because ALL human embryos DO have the capacity to develop into male, female, or intersex.

That's why transsexual is different from the imaginary transracial; every one of us had the potential to be born into any sex, so it makes perfect sense that something could result in an inversion. It's also why it's incredibly offensive when people compare what we go through to obviously stupid hypotheticals.

Gender is selectable??? Doctors can't find proof that we "choose" to be transgendered or intersexed or anything else. Honestly, why would I CHOOSE to suffer persecution and fear from being attacked because of how I was born?

Also, as a former trainer at McD's corporate...the kid who took the video and posted it NEEDS to be fired. His own statements are a violation of McD's employee policy, and his termination is the minimum sentence on that. For one, the comments he made on youtube and facebook are incendiary as well as violating policy with anti-harassment standards.

Biologically, trans women are not men. People misuse the term "biologically male" when referring to trans women. At the most, trans women are biologically *different* but in a society that expects binary gender, trans women are properly (and yes, biologically) classifiable as women,not as men, despite having been born with a genital tract that developed along wolffian rather than mullerian lines.

So....I wonder what happens next? What do we do? What do you do? Are we going to write a few letters and hope for it to never happen again? What is the plan of action? Are we going to do another fundraiser? A few more pride marches? No more need to know. They know we are here. Obviously they know we are here after watching that video. What's the plan?

I had already called McDonalds HQ after viewing the video, and expressed by disgust that no one truly tried to help this woman, with the exception of the elderly lady. I then found out that it was a transgendered woman, and was furious. They seriously didn't try to help her, because of that??? I think the girls and the McDonalds employees need to be charged with a HATE crime!
I wish I knew who the woman was that tried to help, I would send her flowers and a note of praise and thanks myself. I also think McDonalds needs to give her free food for the rest of her life, because she kept those girls from dragging her out the door and possibly killing her. And then as she is hyaving a seizure, they just step over her, and don't even try to keep her from banging herself on the wall? Whether the seizure is from a brain injury, or epilepsy, that could have killed her as well. Ohhhh folks, I'm angry!!!

This horrific hate crime has not made it into any mainstream media yet. I have found only one article in the Baltimore Sun, and many in the LGBT blogosphere.

Please, let's all write to the mainstream media and demand that they cover this hate crime. People need to see what we go through - the fear of physical violence every day, and the nightmare when our fears come true. Don't let this go silenced. This is too sickening to watch, and decent people may care enough to agree we need equal protection in public accommodations under the law.

Please write politely, but passionately, to all the news desks and major media outlets - Reuters, AP, the major TV news networks, national publications. Demand they show the world what we go through.

Can someone post an up to date media contact list? Mine is already two years old and out of date.

Thanks to everyone who helps. We need to put our internecine disagreements aside for a moment and unite to fight hate. And we need to be talking to more than the choir. Let's get the word out! Any one for picketing the news media centers in NYC?

Yes, this was a disgusting act. However, boycotting McDonald's as a whole, as well as Coca Cola, is not going to change anything. The company did not sanction what the employees did; they are condemning the act and the employees are being punished. Also, be angry at the employee that took the video, but please don't jump to conclusions about the other employees. When you work for a company like McDonald's, you are specifically told not to intervene in situations like this. Doing so could cost you your job. I'm not saying what they did was right, I'm explaining why they may not have stepped in.

McDonald's does owe this poor woman a *LOT*. But calling for a boycott isn't going to do a damn thing. As long as the two "women" get their asses handed to them in court, and the poor victim gets her medical bills taken care of and compensation, that's what matters.

I feel like throwing up just reading about the attack on this poor victim. May God bless her and bring her healing and, somehow, peace. And, for the record, that McDonald's is absolutely disgusting. I vowed to NEVER go there again several years ago when I was with my kids there and we saw not one but two dead mice in the play area.

OMG! I feel sick even watching this. I was born intersexed, raised male and once i was old enough to make my decision i corrected my gender to how i felt inside. Because i was born with both sex organs i have characteristics of both and have been accused of being trans in the past, ive seen the hate but this goes beyond fear or hate, this is unrestrained violence that needs to be prosecuted to the extreme of the law, this needs to be publicized so people realize whats happening. I identify as a lesbian woman now, and even in the gay communities i see just as much hate if not more than the straight communities. We're fighting for equality, why should it be any different for anyone else? Theyre talking about having a gay history section in schools in california, what about trans history, or biology chemistry etc? I'm so sickened by this i cant even think, nor type, but my heart goes out to this young woman, and to all who've fought this ugly fight.

Laurie Cicotello | April 22, 2011 10:35 PM

I'm a born-female, however, because I'm more than 6' tall, I often get called "sir" in public because people perceive me to be a man. It kind of scares me to see this because there really isn't a way to know if someone is transgendered short of self-identification. Someone may think, "That tall woman is way too ugly to be a 'real' woman," and attack her. I once ran across a single-stall women's restroom where someone scrawled, "Women Only! No Mahu!" on the door in marker. I used the bathroom, but thought, as I'm walking out of here, what if the person who scrawled that sees me and thinks I'm a man dressed as a woman and attacks me?

I even had a little girl come up to me in a bathroom once and ask if I was a boy. I was wearing a t-shirt and jeans and apparently not dressed female enough for her.

For the record, I'm the daughter of a transgendered parent. I worry for her security too. Our society MUST stop this hatred toward people who are transgendered.

You people are idiots...its standard procedure for any establishment that they tell their employees NOT to get involved.They are not cops nor security...think people...think

idiots ? kind of abuseive dont you think . if you were a real human being or anyone else there they should have stepped in to help before it got that out of hand even if it meant there job , i know i sure as hell would have , idiot ?

It's not just that they did nothing - which if you actually watch the video one of the employees did step in. But that they stood around watching it and laughing it, and even filmed it so others could laugh at this poor woman. So it was clear most of them also wanted to do nothing, and no one was rushing to give this woman first aid when they disappeared, which someone on staff would have that knowledge I would hope. Instead the manager just stepped over her, and the guy filming it got up in her face.

Amilynn Adams | April 22, 2011 10:56 PM

This is so horribly disturbing. My heart weeps for that poor girl. I also feel horrible for the savage animals that could engage in such an attack...how ignorant their upbringing must have been. WE NEED PROTECTIONS NOW!! Not in terms of a "hate crime" bill, an attack is an attack regardless of motivation, but in terms of gender neutral public restrooms. McD's in MD will NEVER sell another nugget to my family until the employees on duty that night are all fired.

That poor woman. :( This really makes me sad. It's just so... evil.

This is why I have a concealed carry permit. Attack me like that and I will be the one explaining to the police how I was attacked and defended myself.

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This is what happens when systemic bigotry and misinformation is allowed to go unchecked, as I watched in horror my heart was exploding in my chest, these women went the route that they did because they have been taught by the hate mongers that we trans women are monsters not people, and the management, and employees just watching, filming and laughing gave them the cue that it was ok...it is scenes like this that are the very reason the trans community has remained in the shadows for so long, because we KNOW often times even within the LGBT "community" we are seen as an "other" and that our lives are seen as less valid and therefore expendable! It sickens me, and knowing that if the trans woman in this fought back it would be said that see its a man cos a woman wouldn't act like that... see this kind of thing is exactly why so many of us become such angry and jaded people!both of these assailants deserve to do hard time and be fined into oblivion, this poor trans woman will be emotionally and most likely physically scarred for life. This kind of thing CANNOT be allowed to go unchecked, there needs to be a massive outcry in the media, and in the streets, anything short of that shows exactly what I have said, that we are seen as expendable! If it was an attack on a cis gendered woman heads would roll! How much of a REAL response do you really think there will be?

This week I discovered a group in the UK called "Trans Media Watch".

Perhaps I have seen too little to say this, but they are working with a television network to develop standards of respectful reporting. I find their approach the best I have seen.

I have been looking for my activists legs. I am not quite there yet, but I wish we had a transgender organization who could swoop in at this moment with the PR campaign to make this a positive. This video for as horrible as it is, has the power to open a nation wide discussion and if done correctly be a huge positive.

Are we ready this time? Probably not, but let's hope some among us provide a strong positive and logical face as we call for RESPECT.

Jessie Jackson spoke in my community Martin Luther King Day two years ago. He said No group has ever gotten their civil rights who didn't ask for and demand them. Television thrives on shocking video. This will likely make the rounds, with or without our voices. Let's hope with and with OUR MESSAGE! RESPECT!

You're claiming it's laws that change how people treat each other, I say your wrong about that. Lets take a look back at when Slavery was abolished, lets look at how new laws stating that blacks were to receive equal rights with whites. What did the controlling white populace do about these laws. Segregation.

Technically equal, but should one go into the wrong bathroom, sit at the wrong table, enter a building by the wrong door, or drink from the wrong fountain while having the wrong skin color what would happen to that person? They'd have been lucky if they were only beaten. And no one would come to their aid, not even those sharing that same skin color. It wasn't that they had committed a crime, segregation while common was not truly legal. It was merely accepted.

No laws do not change society. People do. People who act in the name of humanity, not merely going along with the crowd, not acting due to what is legal, but instead acting because they know it's the right thing to do, and putting aside whats, popular, legal, or even safe.

In the words of Bayard Rustin:

"The fact of the matter is that there is a small percentage of people in America who understand the true nature of the homosexual community. There is another small percentage who will never understand us. Our job is not to get those people who dislike us to love us. Nor was our aim in the civil rights movement to get prejudiced white people to love us. Our aim was to try to create the kind of America, legislatively, morally, and psychologically, such that even though some whites continued to hate us, they could not openly mainifest that hate. That's our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay sentiment." - Time on Two Crosses --The Collected Writings of Bayard Rustin

Laws do matter, especially over the long haul.

Jay Kallio | April 23, 2011 2:42 AM

Thanks so much, Marti, for Bayard Rustin's eloquent statement.

This isn't just about McDonald's, or even about the attackers or employees, it is about a society that refuses to protect stigmatized people from vicious public attack, and maintains a tacit conspiracy of disdain and indifference to the brutality that is inflicted upon us.

We need legislation, equal rights and protection under the law, and to raise public awareness so that hate crimes are no longer tolerated, or even cheered.

@Marti,

How true!!!

We can learn much and find much inspiration, from the words and deeds of giants of previous civil rights struggles. Yeshua ben Miriam, Douglass, Elizabeth Cady Shanton, Gandhi, Dr. King, Harvey Milk, Sylvia Rivera, and yes, Bayard Rustin, who in one struggle was a precursor of another struggle to come.

Segregation didn't just vanish on it's own, either. Laws were passed to ban it, then those laws were enforced. And to this day people still do their best to find ways around them.

So while laws are no panacea that will just make everything better, to discount them is just silly. And to say that segregation proves that laws don't work is... Baffling, I guess.

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I'm TG but I have to say that in no way is McDonalds responsible for law enforcement in their restaurants. They are actually responsible for the safety of their employees. Their duty is to report to the authorities not enforce the law in the restrooms.

It is disgusting how anyone could ever do this to someone, and how ignorant and pathetic that the only person that tried to help her was that woman in the white. I cannot believe how someone could ever do this to someone, under any circumstances this is not something that should have happened. The girl was having a seizer! And no one even went over to her to help her, instead they decide they are going to sit there and record it?! Are you kidding me? Do you have a heart? And why weren't the police called? I have almost never been so disappointed in the state I live in. And even worse it’s disturbing that someone had the nerve to put this on the internet. I have nothing else to say except, I hope those two pathetic girls get locked up for a very very long time. My heart goes out to the girl that was disgustingly assaulted and I have much respect for those that actually tried to help her, especially the lady in the white. No one ever deserves to be treated like this. I hope someday these people learn how to respect their peers because obviously they don't have a clue. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I think the people that watched the video (including some of the employees) are guilty of a crime. Aiding and abetting? Failure to assist aid? It's obvious in the video that they helped the perps (they told them that the police were called and that they needed to hurry out before the cops came) and at the very least did nothing to help the victim.

McDonalds shares the blame only in as much as there have been repeated incidents of violence against trans women (in 2006 as well:

http://transblog.grieve-smith.com/?p=21

But their statements on twitter have roundly condemned the crime.

Im honestly amazed by this. This is the "morals" the right talks about.. They love to rant about how horible gay, transgender, lgbt people are... We DONT do this. Young people are tn taught to respect others period. You can disagree with someone but this is just WRONG.the person being beaten who was having a seizure most like had some sort of brain trauma. And the guy that was standing there talking about it just laughed" Yo shes having a seizure run run yo shes bleeding from her mouth" Why didnt it run through their minds to call the police? Oh yeah that makes them a snitch! Ill take being a snitch ANYDAY over being a worthless piece of garbage like these people. The only ones that were in the right in thsi video was the older woman and Ill half way give the manager a little kudos. I hope the trans person sues the hell out of that mcdonalds and all those that were involved and just watched go to jail! I wish the church would start teaching people that being a good person also means NOT doing this. It doesnt make you cool. It doesnt make you anything but trash! There is NO excuse for this and those condoning it are NO better!

I wonder if this had anything to do with Equality Maryland firing their director. Could this have been the straw that broke the camels back so to speak since public accomodations were so hotly contested there.
http://www.metroweekly.com/poliglot/2011/04/equality-maryland-executive-di.html

Great post "fetal", but i know what you meant.

Here's some advice for those in this situation.

1. Foetal position, back to a wall, arms and legs facing attacker. Arms and Legs are expendable. They can dissipate force by breaking, and they mend. Spines are not expendable, do NOT expose your back to the attacker.

2. Use legs in foetal position to protect vital organs in your abdomen. It takes a lot of force to break a leg, but not much to kill you by rupturing liver or kidneys.

3. Use arms to protect head and neck, and upper ribcage over heart and lungs. Again, broken arms, fingers etc heal, and at worst, you can live without an arm. Broken necks and fractured skulls can kill you. Eyes are particularly vulnerable, try to save at least one. Be prepared to block knife thrusts with arms so the knife gets stuck in the bone. That won't kill you.

4. And YMMV here - do NOT fight back. Under no circumstances do more than block blows. If you do, it's likely that you will be charged with assault, and Trans people in jail get a very rough time. If you retaliate, your attackers may get off completely, and you and only you will be arrested, regardless of your injuries.

5. Get some psych help afterwards. Often, after the broken bones have set, the bruises faded, the cuts sewn up and now mere scars, the fear and the trauma will remain. Get counselling about the effects of PTSD, recognise the symptoms. Understand that if you have a seizure during the beating (quite common), this is a natural neurological reaction to intolerable psychological stress, and without post-attack therapy can cause permanent changes in the brain.

And yes, I speak from personal experience, OK? More than once. I'm still alive, no permanent damage (well, apart from a crushed brow sinus).

Be prepared to endure pain in order to prevent damage. It takes courage, but in a really bad beating, you won't make it if you leave yourself open. They may accidentally kill you even if they don't mean to.

Survive. That is your victory.

In states where one can have a concealed carry permit.

Do everything possible to avoid or defuse the situation.

If and only if one is in fear of one's life or of serious injury
Draw weapon, release safety fire to the center of mass until the threat is removed.

This does not mean one can fire if the assailant breaks off the attack or with draws from the attack.

If the initial shot disables the attacker one has to stop shooting.

These are more or less the basis for using a hand gun in self defense in states which permit people to obtain concealed carry permits.

They do not permit you to pursue or shoot in the back.

Hand guns for self defense are in many ways similar to use of the martial arts for self defense. Same basic rules. You can't break the neck of an attacker once you have disabled them and you can't shoot some one who is down.

In states where one can have a concealed carry permit.

Do everything possible to avoid or defuse the situation.

If and only if one is in fear of one's life or of serious injury
Draw weapon, release safety fire to the center of mass until the threat is removed.

This does not mean one can fire if the assailant breaks off the attack or with draws from the attack.

If the initial shot disables the attacker one has to stop shooting.

These are more or less the basis for using a hand gun in self defense in states which permit people to obtain concealed carry permits.

They do not permit you to pursue or shoot in the back.

Hand guns for self defense are in many ways similar to use of the martial arts for self defense. Same basic rules. You can't break the neck of an attacker once you have disabled them and you can't shoot some one who is down.

Though a very good advise if the assaillant is unarmed, i must differ on a couple of points.

Fleeing should be the first option, if reasonnably possible, then your suggestion. Epescially if a knife is involved.

You can die from a knife injury to the arm, and it does not take long. Shattered bones are a danger. A lesser danger when in the arms and legs, but shatered bones are often edgy and can cause severe internal bleeding.

Also, while protecting you from blows, staying immobile in foetal position is probably the worst scenario if a knife is involved,you're easy to slash and thrust at.

Yes you'd want to expose your arms to defend yourself, but I would add to expose the back of your forearms(backhand side). A good slice to the inside of the forearm will very quickly lead to lost of conciousness, and death if not treated immediately, which is not possible if not away from the attacker.

I'd say, if you notice the knife(cause often you don't until its too late) Flee or Fight. Flee if you're confident in your ability to outrun the attacker and/or avoid injury. If you cannot run, try with everything you have to disarm the assaillant.

Tina Martin | April 23, 2011 12:05 AM

The behavior shown by these women and the employees is reprehensible. It saddens me that an elderly woman was the only person that came to this poor lady's defense. I hope both women involved in this attack get made an example of. They should be charged with attempted murder.

first of all those people needs to be fired especially the ones video taping you clearly hear them telling those girls to leave b/c the cops are coming, to me isn't that some how being accomplices to the beating. If an old woman could stand up to those to beasts why couldn't any of those guys do instead of laughing and watching. I hope that franchise gets sued big time.

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Sadly, I'm surprised it took this long for something like this to happen in Maryland. With the controversy in Montgomery county and the "Not My Shower" people's vile rhetoric about trans women in bathrooms I pretty much expected something like this would happen sooner or later. Who knows what kind of lies those two violent girls read or heard coming out of the mouths and pens of the "religious" people who spread such inflammatory propaganda. They could very well have heard that kind of hatred in church, if not from the pulpit then from members of the congregation.

And also, they could have felt that this propaganda was really the truth since, after all, the state legislature believed it so much that they decided to remove public accommodations language from the nondiscrimination law that just failed.

I don't blame McDonald's Corp for this. They obviously can't control the behavior of their customers and I'm sure their employment process doesn't test for or discriminate on the basis of transphobia. The individual who published the the video on the net is certainly deserving of all the negative consequences due him, though, and I'm sure those two horrible girls who perpetrated the attack will be prosecuted.

What this incident shows is a logical consequence of all the hate rhetoric that comes out of the people who fight so diligently to keep their illegitimately self-appointed right to oppress trans people. The lies and inflammatory rhetoric serve no one, no matter which side is using it. I sincerely hope the trans woman who was so egregiously victimized will find justice and peace after this awful attack.

If you ask me, anyone who would go out and do something like that to another human being doesn't have a place in any congregation anywhere, nor could they be serious about their devotion. It sickens me that hatred could and does spread easily through that medium however... it's entirely possible... but hate is irrational, and hate needs no traceable source.

What I would like to see is some justice being dealt to those who would dare to film it, to the irresponsible manager for failing to uphold any responsibility toward keeping his customers in a safe environment by intervention or contacting the authorities (or, at VERY least, demanding the video be shut off). By the first minute, at least, something should have been done, if not by the time the poor woman is having a SEIZURE from her assault and -still- no one does a thing.

In my opinion, this is some of the most disgusting displays of compassion-less disregard I have ever seen, regardless of the woman being trans or not.

Why is gender so uniquely self-selectable? At some point you were born with certain chromosomes and genatalia

And doubtlessly the non-trans females in that video would tell you that you were born with a certain sexual orientation and that orientation is heterosexual, meaning that your genitalia can only legitimately touch someone with the opposite genital configuration.

Zoe is right.

You are defending them.

Own it.

I've read everyone of of the comments and I can tell theres an enorious amount of rage, hurt pain and angry. The one thing that seems to be over looked is that there are like 6 billions people on this planet and most of them are straight hetrosexuals. I poist this out soley as a reality check. LGBTT people are a minority and Transgender people are even more of a minority, so while many of you have called for all types of actions from jail to law suits to boycotts the fact of the mater is this matters ONLY to the LGBTT community and not to the rest of the world they could give a rats ass if some tranny got best up in Mcdonalds...sorry but that's the truth. And while the LGBT community may see her as a "Women" the rest of the world see her as a man dressed as a women who got beat up for trying to use the WRONG bathroom.....You've got to rememeber the vast majority of the population doesn't feel comfortable around Transgender people and most don't want them in the womens restroom either.Just felt I needed to point this out as it seems like you've all got blinders on to the facts of the world we live in.

Are you serious??? If this was done by two women, can you sit there and tell me that you think a transgender person or even a genetic female would either feel or actually be safe in the mens room? What planet do you live on? There is NO WAY IN HELL I am walking into the mens room.

Tall or short, white, black, or brown, single, married, or widowed, trans or cis, rich or poor, introvert or extrovert. All those terms are simply adjectives. Put any of them in front of the word "woman" and it doesn't change the fact that the person described is a woman.

My response to those who say a person is either "biologically" male or female is to ask for a definition that is universally accepted by physicians, biologists, and geneticists. If those people can agree on what makes a person "biologically" male or female I'll defer to their opinion. Unfortunately for those make the biological gender binary argument there isn't a single accepted definition.

I do find it ironic that most people who say that chromosomes define maleness and femaleness have never subjected themselves to genetic screening. Aren't they curious to know if they are men or women? Or are they just so arrogant that they believe they have a priori knowledge of their own gender but that other people don't?

My response to those who say a person is either "biologically" male or female is to ask for a definition that is universally accepted by physicians, biologists, and geneticists. If those people can agree on what makes a person "biologically" male or female I'll defer to their opinion. Unfortunately for those make the biological gender binary argument there isn't a single accepted definition.
Well said.

In many cases, perhaps 59 out of 60, everything aligns, biologically. For 1 in 60, not so much. For maybe 1 in 1000, not at all.

Or are they just so arrogant that they believe they have a priori knowledge of their own gender but that other people don't?
Bingo.

I DONT think that the employee that took the video should be prosecuted. its a GOOD thing that this video was taken so that the feds can actually prosecute the two jerks that beat her in the first place

I am DISCUSSETED!! All people (staff members) Involved - ei: laughing and filming it should be fired. This is sick just cuz this persons different people feel the need to attack them - I wonder how these brainless idiots would react if somone picked on them about their colour it would be a different story then! It is discusting and im so ashamed of some of the human race were all the same!!!! These idiots should be jailed for their revolting actions!!!I dont understand how people can stand back and watch and film this when i struggled to watch this without wanting it to go away!!! Grow up IDIOTS!!

Isn't going after McDonald's, in this case, a little misguided? Is that particular one, in that neighborhood, responsible for criminals that enter? And if that manager touched one of the attackers he'd probably be in trouble for assaulting a minor.

This is why, whether or not you believe homosexuality/transexuality to be right or wrong, we all need to fight for equality and tolerance. All arguments of "sin or not" aside, this should never happen to anyone. She was beaten to the point of seizing. It's an understatement to say that I'm thoroughly disgusted and hope those women are put away for a LONG time.

Whether the woman was trans or not isn't the issue - the issue is, a HUMAN BEING was savagely beaten, & that beating was filmed & posted on the internet, along with derogatory comments.

As for "the perpetrators had a right to be concerned about a trans woman in their bathroom",etc - I'm an ftm. Prior to staring transition, I would, as the female I was born & assigned, use female bathrooms. On almost every ocassion, I got dirty looks from other women. On many ocassions, where the bathrooms were in stores/restaurants, staff asked me to leave, & use the men's. I live in the UK, and was also - before transition - prevented from going into the women's facilities at a London rail station. If people are going to be "concerned" everytime a 5'10", stocky female with short hair & visible tattoos needs to relieve themself - then society is seriously screwed. As I said, I'm ftm, but I'm sure there are women who share my physical characteristics and who are completely relaxed in their gender.

I now use the men's bathrooms, and have done for almost 4 years (since I started transition) & no one even looks twice.

It would be nice if society could get over itself, & work on the logical assumption that someone going into a bathroom - male, female, androgynous, trans, whatever - has only one objective: to answer a call of nature.

What the 'effing hell is wrong with people...

Noelle South | April 23, 2011 3:51 AM

This should not have happened. There's no excuse whatsoever for the behavior of those customers, nor the employees for not helping. Hopefully the recording will do some good of getting that poor woman justice.

I'm so sickened by this. I truly hope the woman who was attacked makes a full recovery and has the love and support needed to get through this.

I see two employees making insensitive comments about the victim. I also see a manager and a customer trying to intervene. The latter deserve as much comment as the former.

my opinion.

I hate people with no respect.
Leave transgenders alone..people don't have the right to make it more difficult than they already have.
They don't deserve to be harmed.

I'm sorry Mc Donald Is a Disgusting Thing!
[If I see that I an say... it makes the food more and more disusting!]

Johnathan Doe | April 23, 2011 4:31 AM

Some of the comments I have read on this article are way off base.

#1: No one has a duty to intervene in these cases. While the girls attack may have been focused in on the woman, we even see them deliver blows to another woman who tries to intervene. Humans are not made equal, but S&W does a good job making them equal. What is odd is that it seems lots of people in the LGBTQ support community vote for politicians who want to severely restrict our rights to keep and bear arms. Add to that a good % of the people of this country preach that government is the answer to everything. We get this in our schooling (gov. schools, and even some private schools), from the media, and from the government themselves. Look at how many times some police brass gets on TV and tells citizens NOT to intervene in a matter, to just call 911. So in the aspect that the employees or other citizens had a duty to put themselves into such a position, I say no they didn't. Government has stripped citizens in certain areas of the right to true self-defense (ie: No carrying of firearms allowed) and government has went out of their way to bolster their police departments and tell the citizens to only call 911. So long as someone called 911, that is OK with me. Personally, I don't mind going back to an era where people stood up against these wrongs and took actions, but in today's society, no, I'm not taking any action outside of calling 911 and maybe filming the event for use in court later.

As far as the comments "The cops are coming, you better leave." I'm fine with those comments. They might actually get the attackers to flee the area, which means they are no longer attacking the woman, which should be the immediate goal.

#2: This is a good example of why we will likely see more and more private bathrooms come into play in the future. Even as a straight male, I really like private bathrooms more than public ones. A few times in my life, I have been the victim of perverts who try to peep into the stall. Malls, universities, and libraries seem to be leading the way here in Indy. I hope the trend continues.

#3: The filming is both good and bad in this case. Good that the attack was caught on film, bad that it appears that wasn't the only reason to film it. Once the person filming is laughing then they lose any respect they ever had to begin with.

After watching the video, I think I have to somewhat disagree with you on the manager doing his duty. While he shouldn't throw any punches, or put himself right in the middle of punches actively being thrown back and forth, he certainly left that woman abandoned, on the floor, and wide open to any attacks. He walked around, and around, and just pretty much let people keep coming at her. Had he stood with her, and by her, it might have been more of a deterrent to the other women, and easier to keep the victim safer until the police arrived. The kids taping this, if not already, should have been fired on the spot... The only bonus from this is that now these women can be identified and properly prosecuted without a slimy lawyer letting them get away with some kind of shady defense... And that perhaps, we will take more seriously the plight of those around us who dare to be themselves. What probably disgusts me more are the kids' self amusement with their video taping, and their commenting back and forth... This is the kind of society we have become. A society completely desensitized to others' suffering, and misfortune, so much so... that we fail to protect, to defend, to come to someone's aid... in lieu of simply "taping" things... for the virtual world of idiocy we now live in thanks to the iKingdom of today. A sad moment/commentary for our current society.

It doesn't matter the reason why someone express' hate or commits violence. It is more important to realize it happened. Help those hurt by it and try to ensure it does not happen again.

If you in your reaction get sucked into the same bog of hate how can you hope to solve either problem?

I asked for McDonalds Australia's policy for use of toilets and their response to this article and video via their Facebook pages and got this in response.

McDonald's Australia commented on your link. McDonald's Australia wrote "Hi Cathii. We would just like to advise you that this video is inappropriate for this page and is in breach of our rules of engagement http://www.facebook.com/#!/McDonaldsAU?sk=info therefore we will be deleting this post shortly. If you would like to discuss this further please contact us at http://www.facebook.com/l/70092/mcdonalds.com.au/contactus and we’ll be sure to follow up with you."

In other words... They don't want to talk about it...

i just contacted mcdonalds on there website i told them i am boycotting them until they fire all the employs who stood by doing nothing i encourage the rest of you to follow suit

I really hope that a follow-up is posted on this, I would love to send the victim my deepest regrets and wishes for a life not tarnished by the unjustified hatred of others. :( This breaks my heart.

Amy E. Thompson | April 23, 2011 7:53 AM

There is a moral responsibility to intervene. PERIOD. I don't care if intervening is against company policy. Not intervening is against the rules of humanity. Thank God for the older woman had the guts. The employees are a cruel bunch of cowards. If this was their loved one, I'm sure they would want people to do more than film it. Stuff like this enrages me. How can people allow this to happen to anyone no matter what their sex, gender, race, religion, age, whatever. It can be scary to get involved but since when was scary an excuse for not doing the right thing. I pray the 3 young souls I am raising would know better. Time for another conversation to make sure they do!

Even if the intervention was not during the initial violence for concern over their personal safety, at the very least the subsequent kicking and dragging of the victim by the hair could have been avoided if the staff had gone to her assistance when the two attackers first walked away... Their failure to go at that point says less about company policy and more about individuals responsibility... I hope my children will also learn that all human beings deserve protection...

This is horrible and disgusting behavior. I pray that she is alright and that McD's is paying her medical expenses. With everything we have to face already just being trans, we should be able to feel safe in public, at least. I think we should have large groups of transsexuals do week-long sit-ins at this McD's and others across the nation. We wouldn't have to order anything, just sit there all day every day occupying every table making a statement with our silence.

Leave a quick comment on the Maryland Attorney general's FB page letting him know what you think of this hate crime. takes 2 seconds And the Maryland Attorney General's Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/douggansler it's super easy to leave a comment there regarding this issue

This kind of thing is happening on a more frequent basis. The lack of empathy is overwhelming. It is only going to get worse. This is truly awful.

It is true that mankind cannot even hold a candle to the integrity to that of an animal for animals do not get pleasure from inflicting pain or suffering. Mankind, by genetics is evil and quite frankly quite salvage by nature. Mankind has no regard for anyone else but his/herself. This is not the first time someone has been caused suffering and others just merely took a picture via cell phone. A while back, a person was beaten badly and crawled out of an alley bleeding and suffering and a man walked over to him and took a picture of him with his cell phone and walked away and did not call 911.

I cannot give our race the common courtesy of calling it human or humankind because over the years, mankinds' actions have certainly changed that definition.

The Employees at MacDonalds as well as the manager, should be fired, and I think MacDonald's should bear some responsibility for the progression of injuries towards this poor trans-woman. If I were her, I would sue MacDonald's and the persons who attacked for everything they have.

All I can say is I find tis whole thing shameful and If I would have been there S@*T would have hit the fan as I would have had a BIG problem with the 2 doing the beating AND then EVERYONE that stood there even the camera guy telling the 2 that did the beating to leave before the cops came......

Rev. Madeline Wales | April 23, 2011 9:37 AM

I know you will say you tell your employees not to get involved for insurance reasons. And I am certain you will fire the manager who initially stepped in to stop the fight…sort of, in a halfhearted way. But what explains not moving the woman to a position of safety after your people allowed her to be beaten so badly she went into a convulsive seizure? This is first aid 101. I'm curious, do any of your people even know the Heimlich maneuver?

I have one more question for you. With the job market the way it is today you could hire just about anyone you want. So why are you hiring from the bottom of the barrel? And I do not mean low end employees. This behavior screams an obvious lack of leadership. This collective behavior suggests a lack of morals, character, and basic humanity are prerequisites to work at one of you stores.

Sadly today I think I know what your colors represent. Red stands for your shame … and yellow stands for reason why.

Rev. Madeline Wales

maby we should stand by and watch the girls and mc d's employees get a beating of there life and utube it call it justice thats pretty much what they did to the girl

Rye Seronie | April 23, 2011 9:44 AM

As someone who has had to deal with the corporate mentality of "Make it sound like we care, but don't commit us to any one side of the issue" I would like to pick apart McDonald's statement:

"We are shocked by the video from a Baltimore franchised restaurant showing an assault."
'We can't believe they recorded it and then put it online.'
This incident is unacceptable, disturbing and troubling.
'A new policy will be put in place banning all recording devices so we don't get this kind of press again.'
"McDonald's strives to be a safe, welcoming environment for everyone who visits."
'Which means the straight natural born females as well'
"Nothing is more important to us than the safety of customers and employees in our restaurants."
'And those straight, natural-born, female customers probably felt this trans-person was a threat to their safety'
We are working with the franchisee and the local authorities to investigate this matter. We are doing everything possible to make sure the right thing is done.
'We've secretly donated a few bucks to the two girl's defense!'

Luka Antonia | April 23, 2011 9:45 AM

I hope she sues the company for as much as she can!

this is coming from a trans woman who works for the company in the UK!

I'm just glad none of this happens here...

the manager was some help, but could have made the others help or something. I hope the employees who filmed it are dismissed too!

I wish these two "women" will die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am totally shocked, appalled, and extremely saddened with news of this senseless attack. I chose to watch the actual footage and now I regret that I did. This is merely another unfortunate indication that our society has become one that not only condones violence, but seems to encourage it as well. While it appears to be increasingly diffcult for me to have faith in our judicial system, I can only hope that this particular incident does not 'fall through the cracks' and that the offenders are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. My thoughts and prayers go out-not only to the young woman who was brutalized by these street thugs-but also to the others that were involved in such a heinous and malicious undertaking...

Not only is McDonalds food disgusting, but apparently so are some of their customers and employees!!!! I hope those "MEN" that stood there watching get charged as well. Makes me sick!!!!

karen.kreager | April 23, 2011 10:26 AM

It is amazing the amount of pure utter trash that resides in the United States

Chitown Kev | April 23, 2011 10:41 AM

This thread (like the similar thread at JMG) seems to be an organized effort of posting racist and transphobic comments at LGBT message boards to sow divisions.

I only recognize a couple of names here so while racism and transphobia does ixist in the LGBT community (no doubt!) it's important to recognize this for what it is and as the 2012 election approaches, it will only get worse.

I don't like what it says about us that the shock and anger seems to be less steered towards the perpetrators and more towards the restaurant. Do we really hold every person accountable for jumping into a fight every time they see one? If the 14-year-old girl had been hurt by an employee trying to pull her off, or by the employee defending him/herself when the girl turned on them, wouldn't there be an outcry against employees attacking a child?

As for them taking video, we now have evidence to put in front of a jury. This is a good thing, not a bad thing.

I can't help but wonder if we aren't so mired in the absurdity of our modern litigious mindset that the anger is shifted to McDonald's because that's the defendant with the deepest pockets. As if we've reached a point where, when a person commits a viscous crime, we immediately ignore the perpetrator in favor of finding a wealthy bystander on reflex. It is no wonder that so many feel no sense of personal accountability at all.

Perhaps it is more that the employees did NOTHING to help the victim, even when she lay fitting on the floor... far from it, they suggest that the victim deserved it. Take for example the Facebook status of the person taking the video... http://brittanyts.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Untitled-3.jpg

Skipernicus | April 23, 2011 10:58 AM

I see a lot of arguments about details that do not matter. Here's the root: a person was violently attacked by two other people, and no one did anything.

Straight, homo, male, female, black, white, jew, space alien, whatever.

McDonalds is responsible as it happened on their property. The assailants are criminals. The victim is just exactly that: a victim. Replace the words "transgender woman" with the words "your friend," or "your sister," or "your spouse." Oh, how about this one "you."

This is America - being different is not provocation. Violent assault is a crime, period.

OK, lets forget a black and white thing, lets forget a straight and transgender thing. A human being was brutally attacked by 2 other human beings while multiple human beings were watching on and taking video. The only who dared to intervene was a little old lady, who these animals decided to push and shove. There is something deeply f****** wrong with all of this. All this girl wanted to do was go pee. I am not asking the world to understand us, but really, this type of behavior is completely unacceptable and everyone involved should face the consequences of their actions or lack of. I am not sure why a portion of the world feels so threatened of us. All we want to do is live our lives. I hope and pray for this girls recovery, and she contains the strength and will to continue on her path. For the people involved I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Their actions were unconscionable, and beyond barbaric.

While I agree violence isn't acceptable against anyone You all need to wake up and smell the coffee as this is the world we live in. We as a society have become so desensitized to violence and sex that it's not surprising that something like this can happen. Violence and sex are everywhere we look it's become an ingrained part of our society, it's in our faces everywhere we turn. Theres also the fact that our society is build on a worry about "ME AND MINE" attitude. So why some of you think that the employees should or would get involved is beyond me. They didn't known this white person "Yes" I pointed out that she is white as opposed to the two perpetrators and the employees who are black. I did it because I feel it played a apart in what happened whether we like it or not race did play apart in this . As we all known the black community isn't as accepting as the white not that the white is welcoming with open arms, but it's well known that the black community has a really big problem accepting LGB and especial T people. I've read several articles were in many activism groups have reached out to the NAACP to and Pastors to have them educate their members all of which has done very little to change or move opinions in that community.

The fact that the employees are black and the other two patrons are black would indicate to me that this Mcdonalds in in a black part of town which would lead me to wonder just what this white person was doing there. I'm guessing being trans she unemployed and thus has no choice but to live on the black side of town which is normally known for being a poorer and less expensive part of town to live in. I'm not saying she brought it on her self or that anyone getting the crap beat out of them is acceptable, but everyone has got to known and accept that when you cross societies accepted gender boundaries you run the risk of drawing the retaliation from those in society who aren't going to be accepting, it's one of the main reason so many people stay in the closest for so long is fear of how people will react. This retaliation can run the gambit from dirty looks to being cursed at to having actual violence perpetrated against your person and depending on your situation ie: whether you were born with the genetics to pass really well naturally or if you can afford surgeries to help you pass and change documents such as birth certificates. This situation can be a temporary thing or it could be a permanent it varies person to person. I'm sure you all are really pissed and mad and hurt, but the fact of the matter is most likely nothing will change because of this incident this will fade just like so many other offenses have faded simply because not enough people give a shit what happen to this person. Yes it was wrong and unfair and mean spirited but it's only a product of our society. Everyone needs to be viligent to not place themselves in danger...think about where you are and what your doing......don't go into a Mcdonalds at night on the black side of town....I mean come on people..............THINK ! Not everywhere in the world we live is safe.......you wouldn't go walking through Harlem at night would you ? OK then don't put ones self in danger and then be surprised when you get assaulted....geez

You have to remember that Trans people aren't liked and aren't accepted for the most part you should be on guard each and every time you walk out your door..NO thats not how it should be ,but thats how it is and no amount of crying or bitching is going to change that. I'm just saying

Making assumptions about the racial makeup of a community by using one McDonald's location as a model is pretty short sighted. Racial dynamics in the Baltimore metropolitan area are pretty complex. Certainly more complex than the one fast food store model can illustrate. By way of information, Rosedale is a predominately white area, as is most of Baltimore County.

Wow, your comments just get more and more disgusting with each post. Why don't you just come out and say what you mean? That, perhaps you are one of those real transsexual women, and that you hate 'transgendereds', who really *are* men in women's clothes, right?

"the black side of town"? REALLY? How did this not already get flagged for racism? Funny that as a white woman living in Chicago, I've been harassed far more for not conforming to gender norms in predominantly white areas like Wrigleyville filled with drunken bros, than in neighborhoods that are predominantly people of color (chicago is a very segregated city and people make the same kind of assumptions about the relative safety of "black" and "white" neighborhoods as you do about Baltimore.) Indeed, I have never ever been harassed by people of color in the neighborhood where I live, which is predominantly people of color. This neighborhood, too, recently hosted a screening at a local high school about transgender people of color. Statements like: "As we all known the black community isn't as accepting as the white not that the white is welcoming with open arms" should not be allowed to stand. Just because you "read several articles" about it, doesn't make it the truth. Communities in general, be they white, black, or puerto rican, are generally not accepting of people who don't conform to gender norms. There are specific ways in which the intersection of class, race, gender, and ethnicity effect people differently, but let's not make blanket statements about what communities are and are not accepting of transgender men and women.

Umm... didn't Bill and Hillary Clinton move to Harlem in 2001? Pretty sure it was night at some point while they lived there.

I'm a white queer male who lives in a predominately black neighborhood, I work in a library whose patrons are over 95% black, and I've never felt threatened or unsafe. You may be shocked to know that black people are actually human beings like the rest of us! Wow! Incredible! There are awful people in black communities, and amazing ones, and there are awful people in white communities and awesome ones. And--shocker of shocks--there are places where black people and white people actually live side by side and everything is just fine! People are people. Your race has NO BEARING on your behavior. Its time to wrap our minds around that.

My whole life this has boggled my mind--why do so many folks assume that a neighborhood's racial make-up is somehow indicative of its safety? How do we build bridges if we tell one another, "don't go over there, white people don't belong." This is just ludicrous. Every sociologist would tell you a neighborhood's safety has everything to do with economics and nothing to do with race. I'm sure of it--its where I grew up.

This whole comment thread is shocking and saddening. The LGBTQ community needs to be BETTER THAN THIS. Each of us must say "I'm not perpetuating these ignorant stereotypes and beliefs anymore. I'm just not." You REALLY want to make social attitude change in communities of color? Stop pointing fingers from afar and lobbing prejudice and bias, and start entering into DIALOG.

Speaking in sweeping generalizations based on your own anecdotal evidence based on limited, irregular contact is not just inappropriate and inaccurate, its sad. There's a phrase to describe such inane chatter linking that "talking" to a specific body part. And it ain't the mouth.

I have been jumped and beaten twice in my life. Both times in the same neighborhood that was predominately white students. Once, the assailant was black, once the assailant was white. I see absolutely no reason to think that race has anything to do with who is doing and who is getting attacked in an awful show of violence like this. This terrible thing could happen anywhere, to anyone, and anyone could perpetrate the crime.

This is a matter of public awareness and education. This is a matter of fighting prejudice and violence in ALL its forms. That ALSO means starting right here at home, and fighting our OWN racism that is making itself so obvious in this thread. How can you point out the fleck in your neighbor's eye, when there's a big ole tree in your own. Sorry. We just can't let this sort of garbage go.

Awakened White | April 23, 2011 11:15 AM

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This is truly disturbing, even a young adult like me can see that this is just wrong. Im not a really nice guy but even I can see that this is just WRONG and the fact that none of the employies even TRIED to do anything is terrible and the fact that he just wanted to put this on the web for a laugh is disgusting this was a inhuman act and those women should be jailed even is someone is diffenent of likes their own gender that does NOT give anyone the reason to lay a finger on them.

Its not long ago that we was reading of two gay men attacked by McDonalds staff with brooms. Why do so many LGBTQ people get attacked in McDonalds restaurants? It must be something they must address on a corporate level.

When you watch the video you see the attackers walk off several times, this would of easily given the McDonalds staff time to lead the attacked woman to the office and out of harms way. The attacker also walk out of the restaurant several times but the staff do not lock the door. As for the person who took the video he did not had the footage to the police he decided to upload it to rap music video site instead. I would of thought withholding evidence from the police would be an offence in itself.

As for people questioning the legitimacy of trans women using rest rooms, I like you to think about what happened when a Westminster council employee stopped trans women from using the rest room at London pride in the UK. Two trans women ended up being sexually assaulted after being forced to use the male facilities. Fundamentalist Christians and radical feminists continually use the excuse that men will dress as women to gain access of woman's rest rooms to attack woman. But yet they can not quote one case of this happening. Plenty of attacks on trans women if woman's rest rooms because of this scare tactic we are rapists in disguise.

Looking at my local paper this week, I see a story of a rapist using the disguise of being a plumber to attack women. Will we see a campaign to ban all plumbers in rest rooms?

Sometimes I think all us trans people should protest by having a day when we use the only alternative, go in public as we have no facility that caters for us.

As someone once said: Let my people pee

I've had people spit in my food for being trans and I've been drug out of bathrooms but nothing like this! This young woman needs our prayers right now.

The two girls are evil people who go through life with the sole purpose of inflicting as much pain and suffering as they can.

The evil employee who recorded the video and warned the evil girls that the police were on their way is Vernon Hackett.

Kudos to the older woman for stepping in and putting herself in danger by trying to protect another human being.

If McDonald's does not take a strong stand about this, and fire all of the employees in that unit, I will never eat there again. I eat there almost every day. But if they don't come out against this, you lose all of my business. Sonic Drive-in is right down the street.

Stephen Jack | April 23, 2011 12:08 PM

To be fair, the original intention behind filming it was probably to show the police.

suspect class | April 23, 2011 1:28 PM

The men filming the beating can be heard laughing and making commentary about how the victim was "really a man." Then the guy who filmed it posted the video on line and wrote a number of tweets defending the women who committed the attack. His actions are the only thing we have to infer intent from, and these actions don't show any intent but to mock and degrade the woman who was attacked.

Uh, no it wasn't. The original intent was to put it on YouTube to make fun of this woman. You can hear the filming employee laughing, and then advising the perpetrators to run so they wouldn't get caught by the police.

This is disgusting. If McDonalds does not take a strong stand on this, and fire all of the employees at that unit that day, I will boycott them. And, I eat there almost daily. We want action, McDonalds, or we will start a serious boycott. You can go the way of Walmart, Target, and Best Buy, and be on your way out of business. Time to hear from you, McDonalds. What do you say???

Personally, I think Brian Frosh, Mike Miller, every MD legislator who helped to prevent PA-inclusive trans rights from becoming law in that state, and every politician and activist in this country who still subscribes to the idiotic "transwomen are an assault risk in women's bathrooms" meme should be forced to watch that video...oh yeah, and throw in Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Michael Moore, and the rest of the so-called "progressive' media just for good measure.

Maybe then some actual common sense and simple compassion would be injected to the national trans rights debate and media coverage.

Did I miss something? 310 Comments, and I have yet to see anyone mention the fact that Baltimore already has a law on the books that protects the rights of gender variant people to access public accommodations.

Had HB235 not become such a debacle, it's possible that more people might have been made aware of the illegality of this incident, but it would not have changed the fact that this violation of the civil rights of a woman was explicitly illegal.

The perpetrators of this crime can and should be charged under the provisions of the Shepherd Act, and well as charged with civil rights violations, and whatever other charges are appropriate. Throw the book at them!

To anyone who witnessed this attack and did little to nothing. Shame on you! I don't care if it's McDonald's corporate policy or not, you have a moral responsibility as a fellow human being to stop this kind of violence against a person who was clearly unable to defend herself. What ever the cause of the attack, the extent of the attack was clearly unjustified.

I hope they hang. They deserve no more mercy than they showed the poor woman they attempted to kill.

Since the beating took place in Baltimore County which has no gender identity protections, it serves to underscore why we need these laws at the Maryland state level, and at the national level.

Arec Bardwin | April 23, 2011 12:45 PM

I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I AGREE. All of the employees should be terminated and prosecuted as accomplices. The two females involved in the beating should be prosecuted as adults and charged with as many crimes as possible. However, as a corporation, I don't think McDonalds should be held accountable for the actions of its customers, thats ridiculous. P.S. The person who filmed this should be prosecuted. I wish the victim a speedy recovery.

Shock!

Really speaks of the reality of our societies.
Filled with ignorant violent psychos.

And exactly why there are laws and needs more.

I completely agree with the previous comment "Gemma".

Prosecute these hardcore ignorant psycho's to the fullest extent of the law.

Sharing this with the world.

I am deeply disturbed by the person filming the attack, who encouraged the girls to leave the scene before the police arrive. I believe he was aiding and abetting the attackers by telling them to leave the scene and he should also be held criminally accountable for his actions. It was also very disgusting to hear the videographer laughing and adding commentary throughout the horrible beating. The fact that he also posted this online as entertainment is completely disgusting and immoral. The good thing is that his video clearly shows the beating, and one can definitely see that it was racial AND trans-phobic. I hope the females doing the beating get charged with hate crimes, and that several of the employees face consequences as well. Can anyone imagine how horrible the person taking the beating must have felt...no one stopping it from happening, knowing you're being filmed during your beating and humiliation, and having employees whooping and hollering, laughing at the whole thing that is happening to you. Bravo to the manager and the patron who at least did try to help and stop it from happening.

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Anonymous Trans Woman | April 23, 2011 1:41 PM

This is why I carry weapons and wear steel toe boots everywhere I go. Those McDonalds employees should have thrown the attackers through the fucking window. They didn't do a fucking thing. This is terrible.

Can't go on | April 23, 2011 1:48 PM

Why did they have to be black? Another reason to just hate my skin. Why do they need to show us up like this, christ.

I feel like someone is judging me everyday, because they see videos like this. And link me to it.

For what its worth: a hugh from me to you.

We all get this sort of shit to bear: even trans women get to carry the can for the odd weirdo who identifies as trans and then commits some unspeakable crime.

Such incidents are no more representative of trans reality than this is of your reality. But i know you will pay a price for it. I am sorry.

jane
x

eek! I meant, of course, a hug!

sorry.... :)

jane
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I don't usually comment on these things, but I feel compelled to do so this time. First of all, there were people trying to help this poor person. The manager and the older woman certainly did all that they could. The manager even physically removed the attacker at one point. It was said that the police were called, and I really feel that the patrons did all that they could in such a random and violent situation. It is the monsters responsible for the attack that should be the ones in focus here. THEY are the animals....THEY are the violent criminals. The person taking the video should also be commended, if his intention was to help identify the monsters in this crime.


Transphobia and United Against Homophobia. I am disgusted by the actions of your staff who on April 18 at a McDonald's in Rosedale, Baltimore, not only witnessed the savage beating of a transgender woman without intervention, but went on to film it on their mobile phones and upload it to the internet to cause further humiliation to the victim of the attack.
During the attack the staff can be heard laughing rather than helping and even when the victim began to have a seizure the staff were more concerned with helping the attackers leave before police arrived.
This attack was unprovoked and disgusting and watching on and filming while a human being is being beaten in such a violent manner is equally disgusting. We demand that all staff involved have their positions within McDonalds terminated with immediate affect and made an example of.

Simple Jack | April 23, 2011 2:07 PM

I'm not sure why my earlier post violated terms of service. Is it because I pointed out a fact, or quoted the employees verbatim?

Either way, you people don't want to see the truth. I am FROM Baltimore, things like this happen all the time, they just don't go viral.

If you don't believe me, look up the statistics yourselves.

Renata Judd | April 23, 2011 2:24 PM

This is sad very sad indeed. This poor woman and all TS TG girls need education on how to protect themselves. Martial Arts classes, Tasers, or guns.
They also need education not to put themselves in jepordy. This happened late at night which is obvious from the scenes through the windows, also the restaurant appeared to be deserted except for the two attackers and the victim.
Girls don't go out in public alone or without some means of self defence. Protect yourselves in all ways possible.

As for the manager of this McDonald's he could have done more to stop this attack from the start. Why didn't he at least get a bucket of cold ice water and douse the attackers.

I hope this poor girl gets all the medical attention she needs including psychiatric help if needed plus a big lump sum of cash for her to use as she sees fit from McDonalds corporation.

The world needs to know that we are people too not a bunch of freaks or sickos either. I pray there will be some good come of this to advance the protection and rights of the TS TG community.

This from a 61 yr. old post op MTF in Helena MT.

We need to have a conversation on race in the GLBQTA community.

Yes, we do need a conversation about race, and class within the LGBT communities. The level of racist language on this story is particularly interesting to me because it ignores the fact that this is a trans woman who is being beaten... simply and specifically erases this. It makes this about black people and white people and drives home issues around class ("trash" being a particularly loaded term).

I know there are pockets of deep-seated racism within the LGBT population. However, this particular story - the racism seems... fabricated to me. Even with G/L people trans women in the bathroom is an easy target to troll, much easier than race even.

I'm not saying there isn't need for a conversation about race. because I'd be a liar if I did. I am saying that I'm not convinced this is a good example.

I already had lost most of my faith in humanity before seeing this. Now its gone down even more. This just makes me so sick and breaks my heart. Those perps have nothing but hate in their hearts and i dont think that will ever change.

I'm heartbroken and speechless.

NOT OKAY. LGBT hate has gone too far, besides the fact that it shouldn't be happening at all. I hope these workers are fired and prosecuted. I hate McDonalds is sued and I hope that those girls get a wake up call a big reality check and realize that what they did is unexcuseable, terrible, against the law and that it's not okay to do what they did to anyone LGBT or not. I'm Transmale and this video hit home for me because, I've been beaten up, called every name in the book, laughed at and discriminated against while other people just sat back and watched. Not okay. I will never eat at McDonalds again.

Angela Brightfeather | April 23, 2011 4:04 PM

PerhaPs those two attacking women may have heard some of the remarks about Trans people using "their" bathrooms, when Baltimore and the State of Maryland were trying to throw Transgender people out of protective legislation a few years ago and used bathrooms as the excuse. Perhaps they felt they had the right to protect their bathroom rights because the religious right and political rightists keep on bringing up the "bathroom issue" every time anyone in the Trans Community tries to get job protections.

One thing is for sure....this incident is one of many and when people who are gay or lesbian or straight see this incident and are revolted by it, know that this is what the Trans Community is expected to endure until it's "our turn" for human rights. Know that while many are concerned about if they can get married or not, people like this Trans girl are waiting for their turn just to go to the bathroom.

Over the years, there have been many of these incidences faced and endured by Trans people, but in the past there just wasn't anyone with cell phones to show them as they occurred and happened, or a Bilerico that would show them.

If ENDA had passed years ago and one of these women had the opportunity to actually work with a Trans person, do you think this might not have happened?

Please help | April 23, 2011 4:40 PM

So what does Transgender Female mean? Original sex was....

Transgender female. Original sex was . . .

. . . incorrectly assigned at birth, based on wolffian genital tract development which does not match the individual's brain development. Becasue of the erroneous initial assignment, and the brain development that does not match that assignment, the individual is referred to as "trans" gender - in a culture that recognizes multiple sexes, transgender people would have a cultural niche. In a binary society, they are properly classified in accordance with brain development, once that is ascertained.

I have recently heard that brain scans are becoming detailed enough that it may be possible to screen adults for brain structures that confirm their correct sex assignment. In 1995 and 2000, the subjects of the brain structure studies were prepared slides from the brains of deceased individuals. The development of MRI or cat-type scans that can determine size and density of the brain structures involved, would be a welcome thing - provided they can be rendered inexpensively. If only the wealthy can prove their correct sex, that should not be held against those of more modest means.

In the meantime, yes, trans women are biologically women. It's not just psychology - biology includes the physiology of the brain as well as the physiology of the genital tract. it includes the genes that code for enzymes, proteins and structures that help determine sex, as well as the gross shape of the 23rd chromosome pair (which in some cases involves only one, or several, chromosomes!)

This is deplorable. At least the moron that videotaped the attack. It's a start. By broadcasting this brutality, he unknowingly screwed them all by providing video evidence. Thanks, jerkoff.

Prayers go out to the victim.

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/27640819/detail.html

Why didn't anybody call 911? What kind of world are we living in? These two bitches will get what they deserve! I hope somebody will punish them harder! Karma bitches!
I hope everything's allright with the victim! There is no reason to threat somebody this way! Never.
I'm from the Netherlands but when I see this, I'd like to get the plane to do something against people like this!

Digusting, heartbreaking, sickening, infuriating. :(

I believe one reason why this happened is because of the way Mc D treats their employee. most work there butt off just to take home a minimum amount of money.
They are angry and so this is the manifestation of that. Not to mention most do not have the education.
Mc D, need to start treating the employees better, paying them more and have educational briefings on people of different back grounds...
I my self am gay and have had friends who were discriminated and treated poorly in their local mc D.
I say we completely boycott them. There are lots of other burger places around to give our business to...
Just boy cott until the employees receive education and a raise.

There's no way in the world I would have stood by and watched that!

They will suffer for a very long time for that- as will the people who just stood by and did nothing!

Seven times seven will they, their families, and everything that they love suffer for their actions.

Marie Mike | April 23, 2011 5:42 PM

Hey where the hell is the Difference between a Human and an Animal...???
And those employees can be fired and sued.

WHAT THE HELL?! Why wasn't something being done? Why weren't those damn employees helping? They need to be fired, and charged for being an accomplice to assault. They need to be punished harshly, same with the pathetic hate-mongering teenagers who beat that poor woman. They should be tossed in jail without question. The case is being reviewed??? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE CASE? A woman was beaten - scratch that - a HUMAN was beaten by fellow humans, doesn't matter what gender, and the people who did it were CAUGHT ON FILM. Charges should be pressed immediately. This is disgusting, saddening, infuriating, heartbreaking and horrible. The employees are just as guilty. I don't care if I'd lose my job; if I worked there I would have STEPPED IN, fists swinging. The woman had a seizure and NO ONE helped her. Something must be done. Soon. People are people and it doesn't matter if they're gay, straight, lesbian, transgender or fucking drag-queen! This video hurts me so deeply it made me cry because people can act with such hate toward others; ones they don't even know! What the hell caused this? The fact that a transgender woman went into the girl's bathroom? Is that enough for THIS kind of violence???? Assault is assault, and those 'girls' need to be severely punished. Make an example out of them. Put them away for a LONG time. Tell the world that this kind of hate and violence and discrimination is unacceptable. We want change NOW.

helena Bushong | April 23, 2011 6:17 PM

No leader, inspiring or otherwise....were needed...LAWS where broken!!! why did no one in the store call the police when they saw the attack!! the employees of this Mcdonald should be FIRED!!! and turn over to the local police department...what I witness on the film was a HATE CRIME!!!! and they dared to laugh and take the time to film and allow the attackers to escape....SHAME...GUILTY!! I will NEVER NEVER! EAT or DRINK! in another MCDOnald FOR THE REMAINER OF MY LIFE! AFTER WHAT I SAW! shame ..and if the comummuntiy for whatever reason does not care to stop or help in these attacks .....I have learned how to protect MYSELF...even if it is more than one! I suggest others employe your courage you already have and protect yourself.,.,It's getting worse not better.. Helena Bushong

Since when women have turned into animals capable of such hate.

Aren't we women supposed to be the loving ones in the creation? The compassionate?

I'm so dissapointed of where we are heading to.

Tall Stacey | April 23, 2011 7:06 PM

My heart is saddened by this yet another example of man’s inhumanity. My prayers go out to the victim for her quick and total healing. I hope you will all join me in that thought. May her soul be healed by the outpouring of concern shown here and elsewhere.

As for the vicious perpetrators, I can only wish you more retribution than the law will surely allow.

My prayers go for the angel in white who had the courage of her convictions to intervene. She is the lone heroine of this sad affair. On behalf of all the unfairly oppressed, I applaud you Madam and extend my sincere thanks.

But what about all the other customers in that store? How could none of you have the courage to stand in defense of this poor woman? Shame on you all! And to the employees who stood by watching, laughing aiding and abetting the thugs, you are all equally as guilty. To then withhold the video evidence and post it remixed as entertainment is inexcusable.

As for the manager, clearly he could, and should have done more to protect the victim following the original attack. Shame on you sir. I am sure the franchisee, through it’s insurance will pay monetary damages, and the manager will probably suffer employment consequences. We can only hope they both learn something. There is a difference between political correctness and moral responsibility. This woman deserved much better than she got. At the very least she should have been escorted to a position of safety, the office, or even the restroom, that would seem much more important than retrieving the item dropped by one of the attackers, or later retrieving their cell phone. Shame!

As for McDonalds, perhaps they might use this incident as the impetus for a more LGBTQ inclusive policy, training their employees at all levels to diversity sensitivity, providing for the safety and security of their patrons.
As has been pointed out here, unfortunately bias, discrimination, marginalization and violence to our Transgendered brothers and sisters is not unusual, even in the gay community, and certainly from the belligerent religious extremists. At http://wpsu.org/outinthesilence/news_index , about 1/3 down the page, an article dated September 1, 2010 and titled “Bible Believing Christian’s Response to OUT IN THE SILENCE” Promotes Anti-Transgender Violence” shows a recent example. It takes every one of us to stand up for equality for all in order to counter this ignorance. If we do not, we are no better than those in the McDonalds who did not.

As for personal protection, as a non-assimilating transsexual woman yes I always carry a legally permitted handgun. But I also carry a small Chemical Mace spray with a dye marker. I do after all have 2 hands. I recommend the less than deadly weapon as a first defense. One might hesitate too long to fire a weapon, but as for mace I’ll shoot first and ask questions later!

BTW, the most recent comment from McDonald’s (http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/media_center.html ):

"There's no room for violence under the Golden Arches. We strongly condemn the videotaped assault in one of our Baltimore franchised restaurants. Working with the authorities, we now have more facts, and we want to share our actions with you.

First and foremost, our thoughts are with the victim during this time.

Our franchisee is investigating the behavior and response of his employees. Action has been taken, and the crew member who made the video is no longer employed by his organization. Appropriate action regarding other employees will take place as warranted.

We want to reassure our customers that your neighborhood McDonald's is a safe, welcoming place for everyone. We share our customers' concern. We are doing everything possible to make sure the right thing is done."

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Brandigirl | April 24, 2011 8:50 AM

Bil it's NOT a copy right violation if you include the Authors name and give them credit for the article which is what I did...don't believe me look it up. I copy and pasted the whole thing just in case the link didn't work like they sometimes don't. I knew people would be interested in the story and in hearing from the victim herself.

Sorry Brandi, but you're wrong. We've had to be really strict on this one since so many bloggers are currently getting sued for commenters leaving full articles in comment sections. (See: Righthaven). It's been against our Terms of Service since we started the site though, so we've been safe since we actively look for these violations.

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The video proves that the two girls worship Satan.

Religion doesn't really doesn't factor into it here. Believe it or not, actual Satanists are persecuted pretty damn often by Abrahamic faith followers, pagans, straights, even LGBTs. I'll never understand why, but please, don't lump me in with those two disgusting examples of humanity.

This was posted on a website and I posted it on my facebook than I saw this article. I used to work in fast food and it is scary..but I think those employee's should be fired..and WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING lets another one get beat like that. This is HORRIBLE! I hope those two women get thrown in jail.

I work for McDonalds and I am a transwoman Company Policy is for us to do what we can to protect our customers. If she was being attacked in my store our whole crew would be breaking this up taking her to a safe spot like crew breakroom detaining the perps if possible and calling the Police and an ambulance to help her. But then again I work with human beings that have a heart towards all people.

Watching this video makes me sick. What gives those two women the right to judge this victim in any way shape or form? They deserve any punishment coming to them and then some. I cant understand how any person with a conscience can beat another person to such an extent while being completely un-provoked. All the victim did was try to use the bathroom, and what? That means that these otehr women have the authority to try and stop her?
Company policy or not, if I would have been in that situation I would have jumped right in there to help this poor woman. I may be an 18 year old girl, but Ive got enough heart to know there is no way I could stand by and watch what happened here.
As for the part where the woman had a seizure, the acts of the "manager" are uncondoneable as well. Coming from a girl who has a younger brother with epilepsy (a condition where the person is prone to seizures that can be offset by a number of strenuous activities or over-stimulation) I know how dangerous they can be, and how utterly terrifyinf it is to see someone like that in front of you. But the fact that the employees don't even seem to care, and just leave her laying in the doorway, makes me sick to my stomach. I simply cannot believe that somthing like this happened.

cormac pope | April 23, 2011 8:49 PM

I hope that these women are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Sadly, I do believe that this is a race issue to the extent that there is tremendous discrimination against members of the LGBT community by african americans. Also it is a fact that hate crimes against whites by blacks are HIGHER than crimes committed by whites against blacks. But this fact is not talked about in our culture, as being labeled racist is what shuts down all communication. NPR (national public radio) did a great story about these statistics recently. You can also google Channon Christian and Chris Newsom to see the horrific hate crime that ended their lives. We must have more dialogue about the issue of race in our country. No more excuses. I hope the survivor of this attack moves forward quickly with her emotional and spiritual recovery.And I hope that african americans can learn to be more open and loving towards gays, lesbians and all persons who are different.

Cormac : The only people that dismiss those statistics are being either dishonest or are genuinely unintelligent. We all know that's the case. Only a fanatic would call us racist for recognizing that. BUT, it's still no excuse for those that let cases like this give them the greenlight to get ferociously racist in return (using the n word and everything related) because then one is hurting the feelings of those of that race, religion, whatever who would never behave in such bad ways. (I'm not preaching to you, Cormac, and I feel like I'm talking like a grammar school teacher here, but sometimes it's good to go back to the basics).

Tell that to Don Gorske, who eats two Big Macs every day with a coke and is in better shape than most of us.

I don't know why there are so many people blaming McDonald's. The person who filmed the attack and laughed was just a LOW HUMAN BEING who happened to be employed at a local McDonald's. Yes McDonald's should provide better training etc, but if a person is really that bent and heartless and can laugh at such a violent attack like this, no amount of workplace training will change that. There's no use washing something when it's rotten from the inside.

This is why I am afraid to use the men's bahroom being an FTM Transgendered man.

Honestly, I? watched this video and i'm on the verge of tears. To see this kind of crap actually happening makes me wanna vomit. Why can't people just learn to accept us and respect us whether we are gay,straight,lesbian, bisexual, transgender or whatever! People? are people! We are all made of flesh, bones and blood! We are no different from any "normal people" just because of what gender we identify ourselves as or who we chose to love. This kind of shit needs to stop, NOW!

Also, the fact that no employees or even anyone in their right mind made an attempt to stop these bitches from hurting this poor woman. They didn't even really try to keep the attackers away or if they did they certainly made no effort. If this happend at my job, I would give my life to protect that person no matter what the employee handbook said.

I am DISGUSTED with the way humans act.

This is so fucked up it made me SICK. I'm not going to go through each outrage I witnessed - that would take days - suffice to say with each passing year I have less hope for humanity because of shit like this. We're a society of sociopaths circling down the drain to our own destruction.

For those interested, I've posted a new podcast with my thoughts on this. I just couldn't wait until Thursday.

http://beckyjuro.podomatic.com/entry/eg/2011-04-23T19_54_56-07_00

After reading this article, this response action has been introduced. I hope it gets attention to the issue:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=125373744207161#!/event.php?eid=125373744207161

It saddens me deeply this happens anywhere. I would in a similar situation step in and remove the victim. I hope she makes a full recovery, the event will be with her for the rest of her life... but, it would be nice to see her rise up and become stronger for it. We all know whats going to happen to those two nasty wenches that attacked her. Karma is a bitch.

Another point, just as a side note. There was no excuse for those filming and laughing, but most men know these days not to put a hand on a female, not even to break up a fight. The new laws and zero-tolerance policies have made any claim of a female that "he touched me incorrectly" result in immediate arrest, no questions asked. And that can lead to a long drawn-out legal nightmare. My advise to any male : if two men are fighting you can jump in; if a man is beating a woman you can jump in; if two females are beating each other, stay out of it. Just call the police.

makes me fucking sick to watch this. literally brought me to tears. both of those girls should go to jail for a LONG time... it doesn't matter if they're underage. and the victim should sue the fuck out of mcdonalds.

no matter how different we are from one another, a human being is a human being. what is happening to our society?

Sally Goldner | April 24, 2011 1:46 AM

I too express my disgust at the beating and the responses of the employees. I also send strength and healing to Chrissy and I hope you know lots of people around the world care for you.

Sally Goldner
TransGender Victoria
Melbourne, Australia

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my film, wrong bathroom, is a short and sweet entry into this prominent problem and offers a easy solution for the betterment of all of society.
thanks for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFDaYIsOWQk

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Welcome to MacDonald s, Have it your way.

Would you like fries with that?

I think its time to stick with Arby's. ronald is too homophobic.

Have they went back to real meat?
I heard they used week old buns.

they use animals that have been dead for up to 3 days before being processed.


Boycott.

All McDonald's are trained the same way, do not interfere with customers, they may go elsewhere for real food.

They have time to use a phone to record assult but not the guts to stop it.

I do hope the lady is recovering.

I just watched a video interview with the victim on the Baltimore Sun website. I also watched the cellphone video and from neither could I ID the victim as ts so there's nothing to suggest that this was anything but a racially-motivated hate crime against a white person, plain and simple. From what the victim said, the two black girls just came after her, picked a fight and viciously attacked her for no reason whatsoever. They should be charged and prosecuted to the full extent of the law but I wonder if that will happen. I'm waiting for an Al Sharpton-like spokesperson come out and try to deflect the charges, defending the indefensible, most likely somehow blaming the victim - without a shred of evidence because there appears to be none in the perpetrators' defense, so they will play the trannie card.

Query how the Religious Right will react. I expect they'll just sit back and smirk while the two minorities duke it out.

sanjay lulla | April 24, 2011 5:28 AM

it is very sad what happened and it is shamefull for the McDonald personel to stand as mute spectators, they should be equaly held responsible as preparators of the crime. Hate in any form is deplorable and disgusting.

Stinky Liberals | April 24, 2011 8:44 AM

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Maybe you should educate yourself before you make false statements. There are all kinds of defects in humans and the animal world. There are many of us that were born being both genders and we know what gender we are to be not you.Another point is re-read the article it never said this transsexual girl was stand up to pee.

Andrew Clearfield | April 24, 2011 4:36 PM

She couldn't have been standing up you creep, because she's had SRS! It isn't clear even how these two teenaged monsters could have been sure she was a transsexual.

This video should not be reposted. As the article states, the employees posted and retraumatized the victim. By including it in the article, the author is doing the same thing. I refuse to watch it and believe it should be removed.

Absolutely horrifying, those two should be charged federally with hate crimes and spend the rest of their lives in prison. The person who filmed it and the one who told the women to leave because the cops were on the way should both be charged as accessories to felony assault. It is time for serious consequences to illegal actions, no more playing around with people America needs to get tough on crime in general.

I agree completely. This kind of actions and hatred is inexcusable in today's world.

I wonder what God would say about this? Maybe something along the lines of John 9:2-3...

His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this woman or her parents, that she was born looking male?"

Jesus answered, "Neither she nor her parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made visible through her."


...Jesus preached love and compassion. He spoke frequently against the Pharisees and Sadducees who used religion to glorify themselves and persecute others.

OH, My god,this is America? I am thinking if my kids should grow up here.
I will not step into McDonald anymore.

Jane Tessier | April 24, 2011 4:03 PM

I believe this Manager, after calling Police, could have helped this woman up off the floor and taken her out of harms way into a back room or office. To let his employees video this attack while also commenting and laughing is unacceptable for any person or McD employee. He could have ordered his employees to lock all doors until police arrived. He could have asked his employees to help the women up and take her out of harms way, while the manager could have helped the poor old women customer who intervened to get rid of these two attackers. There is no excuse for such a reaction to a violent crime like this. Fire them all!

Tall Stacey | April 24, 2011 4:08 PM

You obviously have no concept of what it means to be a post-operative transsexual woman. Standing to pee for us is just like for every other woman.

Speaking for myself, I am living exactly how God has directed me to. I am not trying to force anything on anybody, all I want is to live my life in peace, and occaisionally have a place to pee.

I believe God told you to love your neghbor as youself (John 13) and to not be judgemental (Matthew 7). You should try it some time!

Me too Stacy, I am living exactly how God has directed me to. I am fully confident in that.

opinionated | April 24, 2011 4:17 PM

We have truely devolved if we cannot accept those things now sactioned my scientific posibility and helping people to see themselves as they are in their own heads. Body image is extremely important in our society. It tells people who you are at fist sight. No one should have to be ashamed and demeaned for being who they are. This behavior is sanctioned by no deity with compassion. This makes me hate that we have let societal unacceptance go. Hate is not a family value. To compromise and coexist is the only means for survival on this dying planet. It's a shame that others cannot see that. Having an opinion is one thing taking it out on others is sickening.

I go to high school near this Mcdonald's and i have been here many times. I can truly say that i will never visit this establishment. I understand company protocol, when to get involved and when not too. When a woman is on the floor and two women are violently attacking her and the woman's life is in danger regardless of their sex or race or any other characteristic there is room to intervene. It makes me sick to know that if that was me no one would help. At one point, the man filming is honestly laughing and when the woman begins to seizure the manager is telling them to leave. Seriously? Something is wrong here. The employees and manager that are seen in this video should be disciplined and if this is a "family" establishment, McDonald's needs to reevaluate what message they are trying to send.

Refflection | April 24, 2011 7:39 PM

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This is a bunch of bull. I hope those B**ch's get hit by a bus or straight up F**ked up when they get in the slammer. A person should never have to fear bull like this. I have always hated the human race and this is one reason for that hatred. I am not saying I hate everyone but I hate the ones that are too stupid to just accept the changing times and get over their selves.

Violence against individuals, INCLUDING transgendered people, can NEVER be justified.
Yes, the attackers should be fired and feel the full weight of the law, but top management must make it clear to ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES that this type of behaviour will result in INSTANT DISMISSAL.

This is yet another illustration of how entrenched gender binaries are in Western society - and how violently they are enforced. They MUST be addressed at a systemic level.

damn it, why do people have to be so cruel??? does anyone know how i can get in touch with her?? twitter, facebook, email anything!! i just want to tell her directly how much i feel for her and that she didnt deserve any of that.

Obviously, we have a lot of educating to do.

No amount of prosecution, no legal court, can do anything about this situation. They might mandate that people be nice to others, but the only way to know that people will be nice is if they wish to do so themselves.

So let's see this incident as a sign that we must redouble our efforts. We must be even louder, even more visible, even harder to ignore, so that someday things like this will be a horrible memory of the past.

Where are these girls parents? the 14 year old girls parents?

Upon re-viewing the video, I'm not willing to condemn the manager. I think he actions are completely reasonable. the initial attack is over less than 20 seconds in, and he's doing all he can short of physical violence during that 20 seconds, and as late as the 1:01 mark it seems he's handled it.

When one of the girls circles to re-enter through another door (apparently) and renew the attack, he's absent for the next 40 seconds or so. These need to be accounted for but it's a reasonable supposition he was calling 911 given the situation had escalated. After the bystander becomes involved, followed by one of the red shirt employees (seen briefly restraining one of the attackers) you again see the manager involved.

Assuming he was not standing idly during the 40 seconds he's not seen, I don't think he's failed in what he could do here - one man can't lock all the doors at once, nor can he corral two viscous hellcats. his lack of assistance is crucial. The only way I'd fault him otherwise is if he had instructed the rest of the crew not to act.

Also, I'm inclined to not criticize the red shirt who did eventually act. He hesitated barely more than half a minute once the attack was renewed (possibly the same guy seen recovering the dropped phone earlier?) and that's a pretty small window of time.

This is so disgusting... once again, my black people have to show they ass in public and show how homophobic/transphobic they are towards the LGBT community. It amazes me how some black people can wave the Bible around, vote democratic, and still place judgement on others--where they have their own fucking issues they need to get corrected! Shit like this always puts a black mark on my community. So sad.

Freya Edwena Weston | April 25, 2011 7:02 AM

McDonalds already has a history of descrimination aginst trans-people, example: December 7, 2009 Tampa Florida, Manager of local Mc Donalds tells a transwoman who had put an application for employment that "McDonalds doesn't hire faggots".
I will NEVER eat in another McDonalds as long as I live !!!!!!

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There has been much that is good in this conversation.

For example, it has been stated nobody ought to fear this kind of treatment. It is also clear we need more protective laws...slowly people begin to follow examples and limits written in laws..and we need more positive and factual education about trans people.

However, I believe the violent nature of American society needs to be addressed. Statistics about increased or reduced crime are often cited relative to the state of the economy, the existence of the death penalty or the availability of guns. Still, we hear threats of violence all the time (e.g. so and so ought to be hanged), we are engaged in three wars, we have an over extended military and an under funded and under trained diplomatic core, and incidents of killed family members and other forms of domestic violence are all too prevalent.

In other words, it is the habit of too many Americans to think of violence as the default solution. We were founded on violence against the British and the native inhabitants of our continent, and it seems difficult to get out of the habit of glorifying and over-using violence as a means of solving "problems". We need to work on this.

It would have been bad enough if the perpetrator s had simply insulted the woman they physically attacked or reported her to the management. I don't deny that bias is a serious problem, but I believe violence is the bigger one.

StinkyLiberals | April 26, 2011 9:30 PM

We were founded on a desire for independence. Violence was a necessary part of it. I, for one, do not wish to be controlled by the state. That is what you are advocating. No thanks.

Absolutely disgusting and vile. The two revolting beings called "humans" should be locked away for good for their animal behaviour, I hope they get beaten to a PULP in prison. They do not deserve the right to be in public, they are a danger to society with their ignorance and cold hearts. Transgender or not, the victim DID NOT DESERVE WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. She couldn't even defend herself and nobody except an elderly lady tried to prevent it from getting worse! I'm glad the one filming the incident was fired, I hope his name is tarnished for life, he should be ordered to go to prison too for not helping the poor woman. OUR WORLD IS A DISGRACE.

You know, this isn't the company's fault. This is the fault of two bigoted women and they need to be held responsible. They should be the ones who are made to pay her medical bills. They are the ones who need to be held accountable.

Ashamed of human race! | April 25, 2011 2:44 PM

This is a disgrace! There is no excuse for attacking a person and no excuse for the employees & customers who apparently viewed the assault as entertainment.

I pray that I'm a witness to something like this happening so I can step in and put a stop to it. There's way too many bystanders not getting involved or merely trying to reason with a thugs. I would have knocked both those girls out cold and I'm not kidding.

I can't believe this happened and those two girls are lucky I wasn't there. I absolutely would've intervened firmly to protect and shield the victim, who is a beautiful woman. It's so disheartening and sad to watch this video. I'm straight and for a long time didn't care about LGBT rights but now 100% support them including transgender and gender identity equality. It's disgusting what happened here and I hope the culprits are brought to justice. McDonalds needs to remedy this.

I think it speaks volumes about our culture that people inside of this comment thread are suggesting and hoping for extreme violence against the perpetrators of this crime. In the first second, people are saying "nobody deserves this crap"... which is immediately followed with "I hope someone beats the eff outta them" or "they deserve to be hit by a bus".

If only we lived in a world where people didn't automatically default to violence. Because guess what... those women are human, too. They need to be rehabilitated and educated. They do not need to be beaten or killed.

Tiffani Driver | April 25, 2011 5:48 PM

I am commpletely disgusted by this video. It nearly made me sick to watch these two girls completely destroy that young woman. I would love to hear an update, to know that these women were punished to the fullest, and honestly, it should be considered near if not manslaughter. Though they didn't kill the girl, the intent was there.

As for people who are defending the Employees of this McDonalds, stating that they are young, or that they can't interfere in fear of possibly losing their jobs, that is ridiculous. It should be within humanity to protect this girl. I would have gladly thrown my job on the line to stop this attack, and I think that those disgusting children working at that McDonalds should be fired, and charged for being a party to.

There is more to just blame than the people who attacked her. No one LEGALLY has to help. You're right they could just stand by. But physically, as humans, we were built to care. If I was going to jail, then so be it, I'll be in jail for a good deed because if I saw that girl getting beat like that, I'd have no choice but to intervene. Not violently unless someone hit me but there is no way I could just sit there and watch. Young, old, educated, uneducated, we are all human. Wouldn't you want someone to help you? If you were getting attacked by multiple people wouldn't you look around at everyone and think "Why didn't you help me?"

That video hurt my heart. For people to be so callous and hateful at such a young age. This is our future people. These hateful beings are the ones who we are suppose to rely on when we get 60, 70, 80 years old. Its scary.

McDonal is getting ready to launch
Trans-combo Meal
Burger with fries, soda butt kick and hair pull

StinkyLiberals | April 26, 2011 9:27 PM

Well, it's interesting that you don't "really" promote discourse. Anything that you "deem" to be offensive, including a different viewpoint, you report as objectionable.

Funny. Go ahead though and be fascists. Real America will not permit it to go. Try as you might, you will never gain acceptance among the majority. It's just the way it is.

Take care. :-)

Veronica Gallegos | April 26, 2011 11:57 PM

This is totally crazy . When i heard about this I got sick to my stomach. Me being transgendered myself it makes me feel like we havent evolved as good into society as i thought. Maybe it was just ignorance and stupidity on the behalf of the girls that did it . But that is no excuse for such
violent behavior.. As for the employees they should have done more to stop it. Doing that to anyone gay, straight, or disabled is simply unecceptable.. I hope those girls get what they deserve. But they probably wont. There isnt to much support for the transgendered....

Michael Foe | April 27, 2011 1:57 AM

This is sick! These Ignorant kids deserve to get the sh!t beat out of them! I am a 32 year old man and I would have beat the crap out of those two girls! And it would have been the right thing to do too! I hope they both get put away and also that the kids filming and talking get fired and worse....makes me sick! No excuse for this, it should have been broken up within the first 5 seconds....

As a trans woman, I strongly disagree. Beating these girls would and will accomplish nothing. And really, they are a symptom of a larger problem. Education is the answer. Education is what they need, what most of the world needs, about many things.

And you can bet there is a distinct relationship between bigoted people and their dislike of education. All the cries of 'indoctrination' and 'think of the children' amount to 'we are afraid you will teach our children not to hate the people we hate'.

And if you look closely at all the recent spending on things, you can see that the people that led to the mindsets in this attack are winning. Education is all but destroyed now in the US, and what little is left is actually demonized by politics.

Fear for our future. For it has no education, ever increasing levels of bigotry in every field, increased racism and sexism and every other -ism. And all the sub groups being put back 'where they belong' are set against each other in a careful scheme to make sure they don't accidentally band together and accomplish anything.

dirck pont | April 27, 2011 7:07 AM

Discusting I agree!!!
However if no one had filmed this, no one would have believed what had happened!!!!!

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For you to stand by and watch makes you just as guilty!! Such a shame that these 2 black girls have the need to destroy what Dr.King,Malcolm X,Oprah worked so hard for cause at some point this starts to become more of a race/gay issue .. It's truly sad that people aren't allowed to be themselves and go to places and don't need to worry about their race or sexualty preferences. And i truly believe at this point that for tme zliion time this will be a wake up call just to bad this transgender has to pay the price..I hope all will be well with him and God bless to him and his family.

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Tall Stacey | May 1, 2011 12:19 AM

I pray that the blatantly racist comments here are those of trolls come to discredit us all and increase the animosity.

mistwolf mistwolf | May 1, 2011 1:44 AM

I coud only wish it was so. Some like the last one that came through make me wish I didn't see every post before it was nuked. I've seen more of the N-word in the last week than the year before it.

OMG. You can see the comments before they're published?

Then you know exactly how horrible they've all been. I'm so sorry mistwolf. I wouldn't want anyone else to see them; they make me so ashamed of the human race.

Bil is this the longest comment section for you guys? I swear I thought I'd wear out my mouse roller before I found your comment as it is my finger may need a weeek to heal from the strain.Personally I'm glad that I saw the comments before you shot them down. The last two that I saw were extremely rascist.If your going to change your system I hope you allow an option for those who want to see it all uncensored. I know that I do. All I can say is that I want to be grounded in reality. That I want to see all the views even the ones I don't agree with.

mistwolf mistwolf | May 1, 2011 8:24 PM

Someone else mentioned it upthread as well, I think that if you click to the email update option, you get replies when they are posted to the queue, not when they are posted. It doesn't bother me much, but it's given me a real insight into the less pleasant minds out there! I don't envy you guys getting that on every article. :)

I didn't notice it right away, but I think it's a hiccup of sorts.

When you subscribe, and a new comment is posted, you get two e-mails (sometimes more) - one is the version they initially send, the second gets sent when it gets approved from moderation. A third will go out if it gets edited later, or possibly for other reasons I haven't yet figured out (Tall Stacey's below sent 3 but I don't know why.)

In these cases, you'd see the post in its full "glory" in your inbox, then you'd get another e-mail with the same poster saying "Comment deleted for TOS violation." But it wouldn't show up just browsing and refreshing the comment section. And normal, uncut posts just get 2(+) identical e-mails sent.

Personally, I think that it's completely up to the administrators whether to allow the posts or not, and I can see both sides of that question. Joe.My.God, for example, never removed any of the posts, and this topic on his blog was particularly nasty, as expected. IMO, I think it makes it much easier to discredit a poster if that's all they can say on the matter.

Tall Stacey | May 1, 2011 1:55 PM

And I agree with amym. As much as I appreciate the reasons for the censoring, and the effort that you put into it, I think we need to have the option of the unvarnished truth in order to maintain touch with reality.

The issue is the anonymity, people can and will say whatever they want without consequence. So be the status of the internet. Common decency has become an uncommon value. And as we all know, we do tend to attract a certain anti-GLBT element doing their mischief to spread their venom and to discredit us all. Perhaps a type of certification, a membership of some sort might limit the abusive trolls.

As for me I am so very happy to have found this site of by and large proper social discourse on critical issues of our community. Thank you all at Bilerico.com. Keep up the good work.

Tall Stacey | May 1, 2011 3:36 PM

And I agree with amym. As much as I appreciate the reasons for the censoring, and the effort that you put into it, I think we need to have the option of the unvarnished truth in order to maintain touch with reality.

The issue is the anonymity, people can and will say whatever they want without consequence. So be the status of the internet. Common decency has become an uncommon value. And as we all know, we do tend to attract a certain anti-GLBT element doing their mischief to spread their venom and to discredit us all. Perhaps a type of certification, a membership of some sort might limit the abusive trolls.

As for me I am so very happy to have found this site of by and large proper social discourse on critical issues of our community. Thank you all at Bilerico.com. Keep up the good work.

well , no one will say it, so i will. This is disgusting. And you, wringing your hands....Public accommodation laws would NOT have stopped these animals from beating this person. When society stops fearing to pick a side in an attack by a minority on another minority, you're collective heads will remain up your asses. If the perpertrators were white thugs beating a black person the cries of racism and hate would reach the stratosphere....but since the perpetrators were black...its liberal gridlock.So blame the republicans...well I know this...it wasnt any of those shitheads on the right beating that poor individual....everybody just too afraid to call it what it is.....the black community has a TREMENDOUS anti gay bias....wake up....

mistwolf mistwolf | May 1, 2011 8:43 PM

I will not deny that there is some anti gay bias amongst the black community. However, the way you talk about it implies that that same bias doesn't exist from white people, or Asian people.

Public accomodation laws would not have stopped this, no. I don't think anyone has said it would. It WOULD make the penalty worse, and make it clear that as a society we will not tolerate such actions. They would affirm that this woman had every right to be where she was. They affirm that we people of uncertain gender are not simply predators who somehow get off on being allowed to pee.

Is there a race element? Sure. But this wasn't about race primarily. They didn't beat her down because she was white. They beat her down because she was trans. The rest is, quite simply, coincidence. To boil this down as racism is to hide the fact that this was a crime on a trans person for being trans.

I am not wringing my hands. I am not in liberal gridlock. I am not blaming the Republicans, though they certain bear their share of responsibility for creating the environment of fear, hate, and othering we live in. I blame those girls, and I blame the society that made them.

I don't support criminal sanctions for those who stood by and did not physically intervene. I don't think that the law has any business demanding people intervene physically in fights between strangers.

Each human being should be the owner of his own life, and no one should be able to demand he risk injury under force of law when he didn't volunteer to do so (Police, Firemen, Military would be examples who specififically volunteer). So I'm opposed to charging bystanders for non-intervention in this crime, or any other.

In the case of the 2 women who attacked the third woman, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also think they should be the target of the vast majority of community outrage in this case. I do think that those who laughed at her should be the subject of criticism and scorn, perhaps even fired, in addition to the cameraman who was fired.

The person who said that the cops were on their way, I think is a grey area. It could reasonably be argued that it did stop the attack, but it can also reasonably be seen that it aided the perps in their escape. Not sure which way to go on that one, and think it's more productive to punish the actual perps of the violence.

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THis attack actually has nothing (at least nothing that can be proven) that this was about this person being transgender. They weren't even in the same bathroom. People will use all they can as a scapegoat for the LBGT community.

I don't suppose you actually read _anything_ about the assault?

....Or do you also believe that NASA filmed the moon landings on a sound stage in Nevada, 9/11 was an inside job involving the CIA and Mossad, and that JFK isn't really dead, he's hanging out in a luxury penthouse with Elvis and Genghis Khan playing scrabble..... ???

This is ridiculous. As for the girls who continuously beat this person I hope you get just punishment. And as for the employees of Mc Donalds Standing around and laughing and watching as this person has a seizure makes you scum as well. I hope you all rot. There's a rule I was raised by and that was to treat a person how you wanted to be treated and if I see you getting beat into a seizure...God have mercy on your soul, because I don't.

I understand that major companies generally don't like you to get involved in stuff like this and while I understand that...the fact of the matter is that the employees were CLEARLY laughing in this video and they didn't try to help the woman while she was having a seizure. THAT ALONE is unacceptable. It truly disgusts me how there is so much hostility towards people to trans nature. They can not help who they are any much than we can help the color of our skin. They are people. They are human beings with feelings and emotions. And NO ONE deserves to be beaten brutally. I know some of you are saying that it is possible that those "girls" felt threatened. And I could understand it if they went and told someone or hit the person once and went to tell someone that something was amiss. But, the fact of the matter is that they BRUTALLY beat that woman and came back for more of her, WHILE threatening an ELDERLY woman who was trying to help. That is EXTREMELY childish and OBVIOUSLY their mama's didn't raise them properly. I'm 21 years old and I would NEVER disrespect an elderly woman or anyone the way that they did. They deserve what is coming to them. As for the woman,(I will NOT say victim because that degrades her. She deserves to have that much of her dignity in tact.), I sincerly hope that you are alright and that you realize how STRONG and BEAUTIFUL you are. My thoughts are with you.

It makes me feel sick that there are people like that in the world that would do this too other people, and that no one would help, it's disgusting