Bil Browning

Catholics Ban Pro-Marriage NY Legislators

Filed By Bil Browning | June 27, 2011 11:00 AM | comments

Filed in: Living, Marriage Equality, Politics
Tags: banning politicians, Catholic church, marriage equality, New York, Nicholas DiMarzio

You can tell that Catholic priests aren't parents. Their only form of expressing disapproval seems to be severe punishment. You can't beat or shame children into good behavior and it doesn't work with adults either. catholics.jpgNot only are the beliefs of Catholic leaders still stuck in the Middle Ages, but their leadership style seems to still be glued there too.

Every time the Catholic church doesn't get their way, they automatically resort to the "We will punish you" line of thinking. Say the Earth is round? Excommunicated. Pass a non-discimination law? Catholic charities will kill their adoption programs and force hundreds of children to suffer because of politicians working for a more fair society because they'd have to work with gay couples. Pass a marriage equality bill? Catholic leaders will ban you from their church and school events.

Religious leaders slammed the state's new gay marriage law on Saturday, vowing to ban politicians who supported the measure from any Catholic church and parochial school events.
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Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio, of the diocese of Brooklyn, called on all Catholic schools to reject any honor bestowed upon them by Gov. Cuomo, who played a pivotal role in getting the bill passed.

He further asked all pastors and principals to "not invite any state legislator to speak or be present at any parish or school celebration."

But fuck a bunch of kids entrusted to your care? That gets you a promotion. Cover up for the child molesters? You're going all the way to Pope, baby.

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I think they see those behaviors as consistent.

The leadership (both lay and ordained) still equates age-differentiated homosexuality (pederasty) with androphile homosexuality (modern western "gay" life), so they actually believe that a heavy handed rejection gay marriage demonstrates their contrition concerning the recent minor sex abuse scandals.

This kind of crap should be an automatic tax-exemption revocation.

Perhaps this will get them moving in that direction. Pass legislation to remove exempt status at the state level for any group that pulls this type of crap. This is clearly political. Use politics right back at them.

They do things like this -- and then they wonder why they can't find enough young priests to keep their church going in America, and why North Americans are leaving their church in droves.

I was raised Missouri Synod Lutheran -- one of the Protestant denominations that is most closely aligned with Roman Catholicism in regard to doctrinal considerations -- and their reactions to political events are often similar.

To paraphrase Patrick Henry, I regret that I can leave the church of my upbringing only once. Hopefully, many Catholics in the pews will now say the same thing.

P.S. "ditchhook" makes an important point -- too many Christian denominations refuse to acknowledge that the forms of non-consensual homosexuality condemned in the Bible are totally different social phenomena from the humanly nurturing, consensual relationships that gay couples form, or seek to form, today.

It is very unfortunate that they cannot make this distinction, because it is hardly rocket science.

Ooops! I just Googled it, and found out that that quote is by Nathan Hale, not Patrick Henry. I'm a fact-check flake, once again.

Bill Perdue Bill Perdue | June 27, 2011 11:51 AM

If it were up to the hierarchy they'd burn them, not ban them.

These are the same people who brought us the unmitigated disasters of the Inquisition, witch burning, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and burning faggots.

They haven't changed much, but the political context, thanks to the American, French and Russian Revolutions has changed around them.

I could rant against the Catholic church but it would be too easy. I would hope that anyone who is asked to leave the Catholic church just look to any number of other denominations that are open to LGBT persons or those who support the struggle for civil rights.

Bil I honestly think when it comes to the Catholic Church gay men Have been to kind. The churches actions involving pedophile priest and gay bashing crossed the line of religious freedom. I think gay men should sue the Catholic church for damages. It might create a bit of a stink at first but it would send a strong message to religious organizations that there are lines that can't be crossed. Also that claiming religious freedom does not give someone the right to impose hardships on anyone or the right to violate their religious freedom.

Bil I honestly think when it comes to the Catholic Church gay men Have been to kind. The churches actions involving pedophile priest and gay bashing crossed the line of religious freedom. I think gay men should sue the Catholic church for damages. It might create a bit of a stink at first but it would send a strong message to religious organizations that there are lines that can't be crossed. Also that claiming religious freedom does not give someone the right to impose hardships on anyone or the right to violate their religious freedom.

Bil, you are so right. It is tragic that the Catholic Church can threaten politicians with excommunication for voting for Same Sex Marriage. They are mired in the Middle Ages. I was raised Catholic, but I don't know who locked the door on who. They don't want people like me in their church, or people who support my right to be married, fine, I don't need them either. My religion (God, if you will) is in my heart anyway, not in some Cathedral filled with gold stolen from indigineous people.