Sara Whitman

Florida Delegates Will Be Seated

Filed By Sara Whitman | April 02, 2008 4:40 PM | comments

Filed in: Politics
Tags: Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Democrat primaries, Democrats, election 2008, Florida, Hillary Rodham Clinton, HRC, primaries

It seems Howard Dean has been listening. As per a NY Times article posted a few minutes ago, the Florida delegates will be seated.

How, who will get what delegates, it seems, is being worked out between the two campaigns.

Michigan, I would presume, will be negotiated, too.

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diddlygrl | April 2, 2008 4:56 PM

What is the use of having rules if they are not upheld? This is unfair to the other states that have followed the rules governing the primaries and caucuses.

I smell a fix being put in.

Im not holding my breath on this one I have been reading and hearing about this since the primary redo went bust. They should at minimum allow the super delagtes plus one per super and be uncommitted for the first round both supers and regulars.

Robert Ganshorn Robert Ganshorn | April 3, 2008 5:31 AM

Without a new vote any seating of Florida delegates is fundamentally unfair. As a Florida resident I can assure you that state politics are dominated by lower common denominator "crackers" who REFER to themselves as "Florida crackers." The state legislature was told what the rules were and chose to ignore them because they thought they were so important. They should be summarily voted out of office or resign in shame for disenfranchising their state from this vitally important process.

If you had an election (and you were told not to campaign)in a state Hillary won under these circumstances it is remarkably similar to an old question. "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" We presume it makes a sound, but we cannot PROVE it makes a sound. We cannot prove without active campaigning in either Florida or Michigan who would have won and to seat delegates under this situation is a falsehood. The Democratic party is very nearly at implosion over race and gender issues between candidates with a very similar message. Are we really going to be stupid enough to hand a victory to McCain due to our own infighting?

Glad I live in Thailand. See you in 2016.

Larry Rockwell | April 3, 2008 7:58 AM

I will be extremely disappointed if Florida's and Michigan's delegates are seated. In both cases, the state party officials knew what the party rules were, they were told what the consequences of their actions would be, and they still broke the rule and moved their primaries. I know they thought it wouldn't make a difference, that there wouldn't be a tight race, and they would give their state's voters the appearance that their vote mattered. Funny thing is, if the nomination process HAD been a landslide, we would not have this issue, but neither state's delegates would have been seated anyway.

Rules are rules. You break the rules, you pay the price. I am in NO WAY a Howard Dean fan, but I really hope he and the national party leaders to not give into this pressure.

Personally, I think the Party should have borrowed a page from the Republicans to start with on this one. *ducks flying tomatoes*

If we'd agreed to negate half of their delegates if they went early, there'd be no harm and no foul. The candidates could have campaigned in Michigan and Florida as the Pubs did. We wouldn't have this issue now, either.

Wow Bil theres hope for you yet! ducks Also Bil every state who had early January casuses or Primaries got there deleagations cut in half even the mighty state of New Hampshire since they moved to the first week of January only Iowa was spared.See we Republicnas do get it right once in a while.Also the are so few supers in the GOP they are a non issue they are the RNC committiee members for each state and the state party chairpersons thats it.Not every one from the dog catcher to the ex governor.Also we still have winner take all primaries which the DNC should take another look at.Florida was winner take all which helped Senator McCain take his lead.

I agree, the primary system on the democratic side reminds me of progressive classrooms where kids aren't allowed to lose a game.

whatever. grow up.

and I think, as a parent, if you break the rules, you pay the consequence.

HOWEVER, the people who fucked this up are the powers that be, and they should all lose their jobs.

the people hurt are the voters.

so... let them count. and some heads should roll.