Alex Blaze

Prop 8 updates: New poll, blackmail, and more ads

Filed By Alex Blaze | October 24, 2008 7:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Marriage Equality, Politics
Tags: blackmail, California, gay marriage, LGBT, marriage, marriage equality, Prop. 8, same-sex marriage

A new PPIC poll has Proposition 8 losing at 44-52. 538 rates the proposition a toss-up. It's a good sign that support for the measure, on no survey so far, has been above 50%. Undecideds tend to vote no on referendums in the end because they have a bias to the status quo.

Meanwhile, the Yes campaign has decided to blackmail small business owners:, the umbrella group behind a ballot initiative that would overturn the California Supreme Court decision that legalized gay marriage, sent a certified letter this week asking companies to withdraw their support of Equality California, a nonprofit organization that is helping lead the campaign against Proposition 8.

"Make a donation of a like amount to which will help us correct this error," reads the letter. "Were you to elect not to donate comparably, it would be a clear indication that you are in opposition to traditional marriage. ... The names of any companies and organizations that choose not to donate in like manner to but have given to Equality California will be published."

The letter was signed by four members of the group's executive committee: campaign chairman Ron Prentice; Edward Dolejsi, executive director of the California Catholic Conference; Mark Jansson, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; and Andrew Pugno, the lawyer for A donation form was attached. The letter did not say where the names would be published.

I doubt it'll work, sending a fundraising letter to companies who've already donated to the opposite side. Those are the people least likely to donate to the Yes campaign.

Moreover, this just makes them look stupid. What are they going to do, join the AFA in a boycott of these companies afterward? It seems the only one getting famous off this shenanigan is the Yes campaign.

In Folsom, CA, a former Republican mayor, who happened to have been married to a woman with children while in office, came out and bought an ad in the local paper to say that he opposes Prop 8:

Glenn Fait, the former Republican mayor and city councilman of Folsom, did something he never imagined five years ago. He took out an ad in the local paper and announced that he is gay.

Fait, 65, said he felt so strongly about his opposition to Proposition 8, the ballot initiative that seeks to ban same-sex marriage, that he decided to out himself to the community where he has lived for more than 40 years.

"I think people will be surprised," said Fait.

The one-time president of the Rotary Club said he wanted to do something beyond donating and volunteering against the ballot measure.

"For weeks, I was trying to figure out what I can do and then I thought, well, I can do this."

Fait paid $660 for the quarter-page ad that ran Wednesday in the weekly Folsom Telegraph, which has a printing of 17,000.

Better late than never!

And here are two new ads on the No side.

iPhone users: Click to watch

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And here's a funny parody of the Yes ads (via Sara).

iPhone users: Click to watch

One more thing.... Turns out Prop 8 supporters are as crazy as McCain supporters. This is from yesterday.

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Bill Perdue Bill Perdue | October 25, 2008 4:13 AM

The PPIC poll is good news and has a larger sample than the SurveyUSA poll of 10-26-08 which shows yes 47 and no 42. If we can stay ahead of 50% we have a chance of nullifying the possible
anti-GLBT Bradley Effect. The Sacramento Bee story on its possible effects can be accessed with this link:

This link leads to the PPIC news release and some interesting data on the vote. Opposition to Prop 8 is gaining among independents, low and decreasing among Republicans and high but declining among Democrats. That's probably because of the well publicized bigoted statements of Obama, McCain, Palin and Biden opposing same sex marriage and Schwarzenegger’s stony silence on the subject.

When the CA Supreme’s ruled in favor of same sex marriage he promised to oppose it. Gosh, it’s enough to make you lose faith in the promises of politicians.

Ah, man. You grabbed the Theramina video. I was going to ask her to guest post her video and commentary! For those who want the background behind that last video, check out her blog entry The Face of Proposition 8.