Alex Blaze

California's Prop 8, election night blogging

Filed By Alex Blaze | November 05, 2008 9:50 AM | comments

Filed in: Marriage Equality, Politics, The Movement
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BIL - 9:49am (11/5) Prop 8 will pass. From CNN's results:

Yes - 5,125,752 - 52%
No - 4,725,313 - 48%
95% of precincts reporting

We'd need 400k votes to win. Only 500k votes are still outstanding.

Alex - 1:18

25% are reporting, and it's 53-47.

This might take a while. At least Prop 4 (forces parental consent for abortions) is losing by a few percentage points.

Alex - 12:44

While we're waiting for solid results, exit polling shows that Prop 8 was defeated 48-52. Feel free to wonk out on the stats over at CNN's site.

Thanks to David in the comments for the link.

Alex - 11:38

Results are coming in slowly. 6% of precincts are reporting that it's winning 54-46.

h/t to Jennifer in the liveblog.

BIL - 10:15pm

Please get to the polls and vote No on Prop. 8

Polls are unusually quiet in California, and the Prop. 8 contest is razor thin. Every single vote absolutely counts!

If you are a registered voter in California and haven't been to the polls, please go and vote against Prop. 8. Polls close at 8 p.m.

Please urge all your friends and family who live in California to go to the polls and vote against Prop. 8.

Polls close in less than an hour. Time is running out.

Karen Ocamb - 7:09

There is an excitement in this city as folks of all ages and colors volunteer for No on Prop 8 and stand in line to vote. Lines have wrapped around buildings, with voters standing in line for up to two hours near the polling place at a popular dog park, for instance, anxious to be part of history.

The city is anxious, as well, at least the LGBT populations and allies as the latest poll on Prop 8 shows the ballot measure in a total dead-heat - 47%-47%. And while a tie usually goes to the "No" side, this time is different with some old voters, a volunteer told me, voting Yes thinking they are voting in favor of gay marriage.

By mid-afternoon, the lines were shorter. However, a poll worker told me, they expect the lines to grow again after people get out of work.

This is going to be a long night. We're all very nervous about Prop 8.

I will taking up my post at the No on Prop 8 election night event in two hours. More from that site then.

Equality for All/No on Prop 8 leaders Geoff Kors tells me:

We will win today of the people who vote today. We will lose absentees, because they are more conservative. It all comes down to turnout. And if Obama is called on the East Coast - we especially need people to get out and vote and be part of history.

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Royce Scortino - who has been dispatching volunteers for days - see the calendar and layout on his wall - says they have so many volunteers, he has to send them to other locations - such as Reseda in The Valley.

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Dennis Griggin is the office manager.

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The Southern California "No on 8" war room at the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center. It's where the campaign is dispatching volunteers all over Southern California and monitoring any problems. They told me that statewide, more than 3,200 volunteers worked the first shift (6:30 - 10 a.m.)!

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Matt Head, 36 and Brian Wright, 33 have been volunteering since 6:30am. Standing 100 feet away from a polling place in West Hollywood - which has had long lines since opening at 7:00am - they say there has been 85% receptivity to their No on Prop 8 signs. Lots of "thumbs up" from passersby - interspersed with about one Yes on 8 person an hour.

Alex - 6:12

Calitics is reporting that churches are turning away No campaigners from polling places:

Now we are starting to get calls from volunteers in front of churches. Unsurprisingly, the churches are not happy with people urging voters to vote No on Prop 8 and are wielding whatever power they have to try and drive our people away. In several locations the police were called.

The No on 8 campaign is armed with a statement from the Secretary of State with a legal interpretation that polling locations are public spaces for the election day and people are allowed to be on property at least 100 feet away. Each of the volunteers is armed with this letter. I am trying to get a copy of it and will post it when I have it, but that is my understanding of what it says.

In at least one location our people were shooed away from a Catholic Church, but were letting Yes people to stay.

The AP is reporting that $73 million has been spent on the prop 8 campaign this season:

Spending for and against a ballot initiative that would outlaw same-sex marriage in California has surpassed $73 million, almost twice the total that was spent in the 24 states where similar measures were put to voters since 2004, campaign finance records show.

Opponents of Proposition 8 had a slight lead in contributions as of Monday, having raised $37.6 million. Supporters of the gay marriage ban had raised $35.8 million.

A little less than $33 million was spent on campaigns to pass or defeat gay marriage bans in the 24 states where they appeared on ballots in 2004, 2005 and 2006, according to the National Organization on Money in State Politics.

Alex - 6:05

I'll be following the results for Proposition 8 in this thread tonight. As soon as we have results or stories from California to post, I'll get them up here.

Until then, here's Jon Stewart on Prop 8.

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A relevant, if a bit conflicted, radical queer Prop 8 PSA


Not looking good at all. Marin is still out but LA results are in. With 7% of precincts reporting, YES are at 61%.

Wait a few. It looks like the prop counts are considerably lagging the counts of presidential votes. Perhaps we are in better shape than I thought.

Here are the exit poll demos. Note that this sample is "No" in the majority which differs from the raw results:

To quote alex at 11:38, what do you mean that Prop 8 is winning? Or to better phrase, which side is winning? Thanks.

is prop 8 "wins", it passes. And same-sex marriage is over.

Obama's last-second addition to his long-held stance of "Marriage is between a Man and a Woman" to add "er... but I oppose proposition 8 anyway because... well, I just do" did make a difference. From about 90% to about 70%. It was just far too little, and far too late.

The exit polls tell the story:

White (63%)
45% 55%
African-American (10%)
69% 31%
Latino (18%)
48% 52%
Asian (6%)
45% 55%

Does anyone else think we may have just a teeny bit of a problem here? One we've failed to address before now?

Other (4%)



And I despise him for his cowardice. I am seriously disgusted by this country. California?

I'm starting to contemplate emigration. Spain looks lovely; and, after all, Spanish is my mother tongue.

CNN is saying it's 52%-48%.. it's starting to shift.

47% of the precincts are reporting...

Melanie Davis | November 5, 2008 2:35 AM

Bittersweet night.

Well....I voted for Obama, and I'm glad he won, but unfortunately a huge percentage of those who turned out to vote for him in Ca. also voted Yes on Prop 8.

Gee, I wonder why when he only stated clearly every time he was asked that he did not support gay marriage and that he defined marriage as between a man and a woman. Of course that was only his opinion and wouldn't unduly influence his homophobic supporters to vote against it, right?

I think you should read this article over at Pam's House Blend before you're too quick to label the black community as homophobic.

That's a fair point. Anyway, the good news is that younger voters (white college-aged voters) and Asians (whose population is growing) mostly voted "no" on Prop 8. So maybe the future looks better.

As of Noon Eastern, MSNBC still says Prop Hate's passage is "too close to call". Does anyone here know what the criteria is for recounts in CA?

I have seen the demographics in the exit polls. However, we are to blame for the apparent passage of Proposition 8. We failed to get the necessary support to defeat this amendment. We were not outspent — We were out-organized!