Alex Blaze

DADT bill dropped in Senate

Filed By Alex Blaze | July 24, 2009 2:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Politics
Tags: david waldman, Don't Ask Don't Tell, gays in the military, Harry Reid, Kirsten Gillibrand, military, Senate, Ted Stevens

Kirstin Gillibrand isn't going forward with her amendment to suspend/end DADT discharges:

The New York senator who once said she was considering an amendment to a defense bill mandating a stay on discharges under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" has decided against introducing the measure after determining there aren't enough votes for passage, according to her office.[...]

But Matt Canter, a Gillibrand spokesperson, told the Blade on Wednesday that the senator determined there weren't 60 votes available for a vote of cloture on the amendment.

"She was working for about a week to assess support among her colleagues for the measure," he said. "It does not appear that we're going to have the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. So she's not going to pursue the moratorium amendment at this time."

Don't be coy, Canter! We know that there isn't going to be a filibuster on this. Republicans will not start reading the phone book to block this measure. What they did is, behind everyone's back, say that they won't vote for cloture, knowing full well that they won't actually filibuster, and Harry Reid decided not to force the issue and effectively granted conservatives the policy benefits of a filibuster (DADT still in place) without the political price (Republicans on TV for several days talking about how gays should stay closeted in the military, obstructing everything else in the Senate for it).

This has been the Democrats' MO on pretty much every major piece of legislation, so much so that now every journalist pretty much assumes a bill has to have 60 votes to pass the Senate. Funny how they weren't saying that before 2006, when Republicans were in charge. Democrats had a way of caving back then and Republicans knew how to push a bill through.

It reminds me of this old article from David Waldman back when the Webb Amendment was being debated:

And it's why you're not seeing headlines today declaring that Senate Republicans cravenly filibustered legislation that would have required that troops deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan get recovery time at home equal to the time spent in combat.

Such a requirement, by the way, is already a tremendous compromise. The Pentagon brass usually requires twice as much rest as deployment. But Webb's compromise required only half that much rest. Still, Republicans said no. Our troops -- including our "one weekend a month" National Guardsmen -- must be required to spend more time in combat than out. So that the rest of us can all shop, watch TV, cut taxes, or take a "wide stance" if we feel like it.

So why aren't the papers reporting on the Republican intransigence in the Senate? Why aren't they telling everyone how they're ordering troops stressed to the breaking point back into combat while they busy themselves smoothing their pocket squares? Why aren't they publishing screaming headlines about the sheer gall of yesterday's Republican filibuster?

Because there was no Republican filibuster. That's why.

Instead, the reason the Webb amendment failed even though it got 56 votes was that Senators agreed by unanimous consent that the amendment should have to get 60 votes to pass, even without a filibuster.

But why would anyone agree to allow Republicans, who are already on pace to shatter all previous filibuster records, to stop an amendment this important and this sensible without even lifting a finger? And the question here is not just why anyone would allow it, but why everyone did. A single Senator could have put a stop to this simply by saying, "I object" when the unanimous consent request was made. Just one Senator.

Yet none did.

Not Harry Reid. Not Russ Feingold. Not Bernie Sanders.


And so the Webb amendment died quietly yesterday, allowing Republicans to enjoy all the obstructionist benefits of a filibuster, without having to stand up and tell Americans and their fighting men and women in the military exactly what they were doing. And not a moment was "wasted" on the "extended debate" that's supposed to make up a filibuster.

Everyone just politely agreed that 56-44 would be a losing vote for America's sons and daughters wearing the uniform in Iraq and Afghanistan. And they did it on national television. And America yawned, hit the snooze button, and slept in.

In the coming days, the Congress will be dealing with the appropriations bills for fiscal year 2008. President Bush has threatened to veto almost every single one of them, which would leave the United States without any spending authority come October 1. That's ten days from now. The president says he's going to veto everything, and we have ten days to see if he's serious, decide what to do in case he is, and then figure out a way to get funding passed.

But hey, since those veto threats are pending, why not just agree to unanimous consent requests in both the House and the Senate that the appropriations bills will require a 2/3 vote to pass? Since they're going to be vetoed, why not just spare poor President Bush the trouble and the wear and tear on his veto crayon, and agree up front that if a bill doesn't pass with a veto-proof majority, it shouldn't be considered passed at all?

Because that's the logical extension of what happened yesterday. And the truth is, it makes no less sense. We don't know that Bush has the will to veto these bills any more than we knew that Republicans had the will to filibuster the Webb amendment. And I mean really filibuster. Not wait out a one-day cloture petition, beat it, and then break for lunch. But really stand on their feet day in and day out, live on C-SPAN2, and tell America they think our troops should spend more time in combat, and their families should just shut up about it.

Until recently, cloture votes were the easy way out of a filibuster. Forty-one Senators had only to make their protest last long enough to make it to the cloture vote, beat it, and then bask in their victory as the majority pulled the "defeated" legislation from the floor and slunk away. But believe it or not, Senate Democrats have found an easier way to do this, and begin slinking even earlier.

Funny that both situations are about liberal attempts to make life easier for troops in ways the military brass doesn't want.

The Senate is about as clubby as a body of government can get, really, to the point of corruption. Remember how when Ted Stevens was found guilty of corruption they gave him a standing ovation as he left? Yeah, it doesn't matter if a guy is a criminal or has beliefs ostensibly the opposite of their own - it's the most exclusive club in the world and they're going to look out for one another.

Apparently Gillibrand just learned that lesson. I'm sure it'll help her out in the 2010 elections.

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Bill Perdue Bill Perdue | July 25, 2009 1:02 AM

Oh just imagine all the wondrous advantages of a having our very own 'fierce defender' in the White House, 60 Democrats in the Senate and a big majority in the House. We'll get laws to end homobigotry, and we'll get socialized medicine, and unemployment will end and the war will end and...

“Gillibrand's 'Don't Ask' amendment off the table
N.Y. senator sought moratorium on military discharges
By CHRIS JOHNSON, Washington Blade Jul 22 2009

“The New York senator who once said she was considering an amendment to a defense bill mandating a stay on discharges under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" has decided against introducing the measure after determining there aren't enough votes for passage, according to her office.”

So much for breathless confidence in the Democrats.

With Democrats like these who really needs Republicans. Actually the who really needs the Republicans are the Democrats. They pretend that the Republicans are worse instead of being their kissing cousins on the big issues.

Believe it or not, sometimes people are foolish enough to fall for that.

About 75% of Americans support the repeal of DADT, yet the damn Senate can't muster 60% support? This means our Senate does not reflect the will of the American people. What good are they?. We may have 60 Democrat Senators, but we have 100 idiots.

The problem with the percentages is that while 75% of Americans want and end to it we are coincentrated in a few states and so the balanced nature of the Senate means that our Senators are not clearly in charge.
The House on the other hand should be pushing this through because of the population based structure where more populated states have more representation.