Davina Kotulski

Aggressive violent acts by supporters of LGBT rights

Filed By Davina Kotulski | January 13, 2010 6:30 PM | comments

Filed in: Marriage Equality, Politics, Politics
Tags: David Boies, George Chauncey, John Lewis, marriage equality, Professor Chauncey, Prop 8, Prop 8 trial, Prop. 8, same-sex marriage, Ted Olson

After the break, Thompson began introducing evidence that Yeson8 people were attacked by No8 people - including death threats, boycotts, defaced churches, and an elderly couple beaten up.

Prop8-trial.jpgWhile this is all hearsay to me, I want to speak to two things:

First, I was one of those people who was verbally and almost physically, assaulted during the Prop 8 campaign in my hometown Oakland, California. Following the Prop 8 state trial I began receiving death threats from a man who called my home and sent me e-mails calling me a "fucking dyke" while simultaneously identifying himself as a Christian.

I was concerned because Molly and I were community grand marshals for the SF Pride Parade and were going to ride in a convertible car down Market St during gay pride. I had images of JFK's assassination running through my head as the phone calls continued. I filed a police report and eventually the calls stopped.

Second, again, the Yeson8 reports of being victimized are hearsay, but we should be mindful as we advance our equality to maintain non-violence in all aspects of our communication with our opposition. We must not become the bullies.

As Ghandi said, the enemy of truth, is untruth, it's not the person. I invite us to be in a place of compassion wherever possible with our opponents. Knowing that many of them will one day awaken to their misunderstandings (mistakes) and some may even become active allies in ushering in more equality.

The truth is, so many already have.


Lawyers for Protectmarriage.com showed footage of the heterosexual couple from Massachusetts who were featured in Yeson8 ads talking about how school children would be forced to learn about gay sex because someone at their son's school read the book, King and King, and it was not part of the curriculum. The couple say this is forced on kids and parents and they are helpless to change it.

Particularly appalling was when the women said, "Our children should not be exposed to sexuality in second grade. Now they are being forced to learn about gay marriage in math, social studies, and reading. Parents have no rights."

Thompson badgered Chauncey asking him shouldn't parents have a right to decide what their children learn if they oppose the teaching.

Chauncey fired back that if parents oppose interracial marriage they can send their child to a private school, but that public schools "are encouraged to teach broader social values," and he emphasized that the book, King and King, "is a fairy tale, it's not about gay sex," as Thompson and the couple tried to frame.


Chief Deputy Attorney for San Francisco, Terry Stewart, asked Professor Chauncey if marriage was an adult issue and if he had ever heard of flower children before. There were a few chuckles in the court room, as Stewart corrected herself and said "flower girls and ring bearers."

She challenged Thompson's earlier point that even gay people didn't want marriage, but mentioned that their were many blacks in the segregated South who were also initially uncomfortable with integration with whites for various reasons.


Stewart then asks Chauncey to read some documents by Prop 8 supporters to be submitted as evidence.

Chauncey reads - Allowing children to be adopted by living in such unions would be doing violence to these children.

Then Stewart introduces video of a deposition with the Executive Director of the Traditional Family Coalition, Dr. Bill Tam, who volunteered almost all of his time to help ProtectMarriage.com pass Prop 8.

Dr. Tam via pre-recorded video:

Dr. Tam - I communicated with Ron Prentiss, Andrew Pugno, Frank Schubert...I organized several rallies in support of Prop 8 attended by thousands of voters and raised several thousand dollars and support from the Asian-American community."

Deposing Attorney - How did you attract people?

Dr. Tam - Notices of rallies at churches.

Deposing Attorney - Were these venuespublic?

Dr. Tam - Yeah. China Town Square. Names some Memorial Park.

Deposing Attorney - Who attended the rallies?

Dr. Tam mentions many clergy members and Ron Prentiss and Tony Perkins.

Statement by Dr. Tam as summarized by Professor Chauncey:

Chauncey summarizes Dr. Tam's remarks. "This is anti-gay rhetoric, it describes the right to marry as the legalization of prostitution, put forth by San Francisco city government (which is under rule of homosexuals) and forced on the people. The next step after gay marriage is legalizing sex with children."


Video shows Dr. Tam describing the Gay Agenda.

"It is legalizing sex with children. Google it," he says. When asked by the deposing attorney is he believes this is true. He evokes his 1st amendment right that he doesn't have to say if believes this.

Tam goes on to express his concern that if gay marriage were legal it would lead not only to legalizing sex with children, but "every child would grow up thinking they could marry John or Jane."

Dr. Tam expressed concern that because of gay marriage, "My daughter wanted to experiment with girls and had trouble getting boys. So the girls tried girls. The children did an experiment."

He also expressed concern about gays calling marriage a civil right. He said, "It's a concern to Asian Americans that gays call it civil rights; civil rights is about skin color. I cannot change it. If homosexuals portray themselves as a minority then any sex preference can become a minority."

And, in fact, LGBT people are the minority, but as we continue to grow as a society, we will be a part of a majority of people who believe in equality for LGBTQ people.

I'm sorry to say, but I will not be in the court room again until Friday at 8:30 AM. Follow Michael Petrelis' blog for a summary later of the day and Paul Hogarth who is doing live blogging.

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Our opponents will always twist our words and our actions where they can, but the truth of them will always prevail in the end.

"It's a concern to Asian Americans that gays call it civil rights; civil rights is about skin color."

In a truly just universe, saying a sentence this monumentally stupid would naturally result in a Scanners-style head explosion.

I so wish this had been youtubed. It sounds like fun!

The only violence I'm aware of here in Fresno came from the Yes On 8 supporters.

The Yessers have made much of so-called "death threats" directed at our ex-mayor and one of the Yes On 8 leadership (a worthless soul by the name of Jim Franklin). City Hall insiders flatout say those threats were phoney. The FBI looked into them and the case died.

You know - all those wandering packs of wild gays... we're holding down Religious Right women and doing their hair. Brutal!