Alex Blaze

The Fox News Muslim gay bar

Filed By Alex Blaze | August 10, 2010 4:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Marriage Equality, Media
Tags: gay bars, ground zero mosque, Mosque, Muslims, New York City

Updated after the jump.

I don't know which is sadder: that Greg Gutfeld thinks he's going to prove a point to liberals using the American right's constantly-demonstrated fidelity to the LGBT community or that getting people into gay bars nowadays is as easy as putting a sign that reads "Muslim gay bar" on a building.

gutfeld on redeye-thumb.JPGImportant news in the annals of publicity stunts today, as Fox News' Greg Gutfeld announced on his blog--the truly unfortunately named "Daily Gut"--that he has aims to open a Ground Zero-area gay bar catering to Muslim men in the space next to a proposed mosque. "As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world," the Red Eye host wrote, identifying the bar's raison d'ĂȘtre. "After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine." Ahem.

Will there be a backroom at this bar? If there is, they should definitely sell T-shirts that say "I had sex at the Fox News gay bar and all I got was this T-shirt... and crabs."

Vanity Fair continues:

Gutfeld insists, multiple times, that he is "dead serious on this one," and announces that he has "spoken to a number of investors" about the project. (For what it's worth, Red Eye's Andy Levy corroborates Gutfeld's earnestness.) Reactions to the proposal have been mixed. Mediaite's Jon Bershad, for instance, characterized the idea as "brilliant," explaining, "just because I support Muslim Americans in their fight against anti-Islam prejudice, doesn't mean they shouldn't get a few dings for their religion's own prejudice against homosexuals." The conservative Hot Air blog, itself against the construction of the Ground Zero mosque, provides a helpful gloss: the gay bar is, metaphorically, a mosque equivalent. According to it site, both the bar and the cultural center "needlessly [inflame] cultural tensions in the ostensible service of liberal values" and both "celebrate tolerance regardless of the sensitivities of the surrounding area." In any event, the stunt will certainly put Gutfeld on the map, if not, necessarily, his Muslim gay bar.

I don't even know what a "Muslim gay bar" would look like. I went to a gay bar the last time I was in Istanbul, and it was pretty similar to Western gay bars (expensive, fruity cocktails, sterile decor, servers with hair gel, and a few rainbow flags) and a whole lot less gay than certain parts of the city (if you know what I mean).

I know he's not actually "dead serious," but I'd just like to point out that rightwingers and conservative Christians really shouldn't get too arrogant about their superior tolerance of LGBT people. Do I even need to remind them that they have a ways to go?


Gutfeld's written about this on his site:

I'm announcing that I am planning to build the first gay bar that caters not only to the West, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park 51 in an available commercial space.

Now, I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance. As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night to accommodate men who wish to keep their sexuality under wraps, but still want to dance.

I'm just astonished that he can sit around and complain about the homophobia of others, when he goes on national TV and tells Ellen and Portia to go back in the closet:

GUTFELD: So, hot on the flat, comfortable heels of California overturning the gay marriage ban, Ellen DeGeneres announced on her show that she's marrying the stunningly hot Portia de Rossi, and she got a standing ovation. And I could tell Ellen hasn't been this happy since she professed the same love for Anne Heche, also on TV, a decade ago. As you know, seeing Ellen happy makes me happy, for everyone should be happy with the one they love, be they straight, gay, transgendered, bicurious, master, slave, S&M, or even Belgian -- especially Belgian, those miserable bastards deserve it.

But Ellen already knows that once you publicize your love, it applies undue pressure on that relationship to survive, even if it's not meant to be, and then resentment grows, leading inevitably to something named Coley Laffoon [Heche's estranged husband] -- such a stupid, stupid name.

The fact is, if you ever want to live happily ever after, you need to shut the hell up about it. Professing one's love publicly only works in sappy commercials, bad movies, and perhaps dungeons in the East Village where the survival of your scrotum depends on it. For me, public exhortations of love are no different than telling everyone how great your bowel movements are since switching to All-Bran -- no one gives a [bleep] except you. And so, this is why I never discuss my marriage with anyone, which is the main reason why John Stamos and I are so happy together. And if you disagree with me, then you, sir, are worse than Hitler.

I'm sure he applies the same standard to all celebrity couples, telling even the straight ones to stay in the closet. Those parts of his show just get edited out.

And here he is on Thomas Beattie, the trans man who shared his pregnancy with the world:

Yeah, he's really in a position to be telling others they should be more tolerant.

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""After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.""

Yea, except they actually mean what they say and he's just throwing this idea out there as some spiteful, "Look how big of a prick I can be" stunt.
Or maybe I'm jaded. Maybe he's actually trying to help create a better.....who the hell am I kidding, this dude's a troll of the highest order.

It's so easy to see right through this. Fox News has never been a friend of the queer/trans community, nor the Muslim community, but they now want to set up a narrative of (American - christian) acceptance of gays/lesbians [aka US exceptionalism]. All in order to justify Islamapohbia/Xenophobia. And as Alex Blaze posted earlier, even gay media like the Advocate will go along with it. And of course neither of these stories will actually feature the voices of queer/trans muslims or affirming mulsim leaders. Instead we are just told to over look the homophobia/transphobia of christian communities. I really appreciate Alex Blaze bringing this up.

Wilson46201 | August 10, 2010 4:46 PM

if we want to really go there, I propose also opening gay bars next to Catholic cathedrals, gay bars & coffee shops & cigar shops next to Mormon Temples, gay bars & pork barbecue joints & shrimp shacks next to Orthodox Synagogues, gay bars and titty bars next to Baptist churches. None of these religious groups have been exactly welcoming to the LGBTQ community, have they now?

If we went with that strategy, there'd be more gay bars than there are gays.

Maybe Gutfeld and his other Fox pals are into Muslim men. Can't you see Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly stopping in to show their 'support' while checking out any potential customers. You're not kidding anyone, Greg, but I don't think you could attract flies. Gay Muslims have more taste. Methinks Greg Gutfeld sits down to pee.

I was thinking that too - how long can a 40-something work at a gay bar before people start to ask questions?

The only thing I can give him is Ellen's public declaration of love. I'm not famous by any means, but we're often held up as a "committed longterm relationship" here in Indiana when it's time to trot out a gay couple to defend marriage equality. It becomes burdensome. I know the couple they used to do that too was very stressed about it and had a period where they wanted to break up but the peer pressure to stay together "for the good of the movement" nearly drove them both to suicide.

I'm not saying he's right about all of it - just that the public declaration of love can put an enormous burden on a famous person.

I agree too, but I don't think that was his main point.