Alex Blaze

Catholic school district bans GSA's, call gays Nazis

Filed By Alex Blaze | January 07, 2011 9:30 AM | comments

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Tags: bullying, Canada, Catholic church, gay straight alliance, GSA, halton school district, religion, schools, toronto

While I wouldn't put it past a Catholic school board to ban GSA's at their schools. It makes sense - who's going to become a priest or a nun if people can live out of catholic-school.jpgthe closet and outside the clergy? But maybe they could stay away from the Nazi references while announcing the decision:

"We don't have Nazi groups either," rationalizes board chair Alice Anne LeMay. "Gay-Straight Alliances are banned because they are not within the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Xtra does a good job of framing this as an issue of school safety, as it is. And the school doesn't seem to have considered that angle before:

Pautler justifies the decision by saying the ministry's Equity and Inclusive Education policy only proposes GSAs as "one possibility" to fight homophobia.

Although he wouldn't provide another possibility, Pautler just stammers, "all students that attend school should be able to feel free of harassment and are protected from any forms of persecution or anything that makes them feel marginalized."

I'm assuming that at least some of the kids who get sent to a Catholic school would have internalized the Church's teachings on the topic, and that some of them might feel empowered to act violently on those teachings. The school will, of course, blame the bad apple instead of looking at the larger environment, ensuring that the problem persists.

If I didn't think these people were so uninformed about these issues, I might be tempted to say that's the intended outcome.

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It's pretty damn ballsy of them talking about anyone being Nazis, when the Pope was a Hilter Youth. Someone needs to point that out to them,

David da Silva Cornell | January 8, 2011 1:16 PM

Not to mention that the Nazis ***targeted and persecuted*** gay folks... Have these people really never heard of the pink triangle? So the attempted analogy fails on that point, too.

I definitely agree with Monica.

With the Church having a former Hitler Youth sitting in the throne of St. Peter, throwing around the word Nazi is beyond stupid.

I have a great photo of Ratzinger saluting Hitler - perhapsy I need to provide a copy to the nitwits at the school. Anyone have conact info for the school?

Well Monica and Michael beat me to it. The poor sister has violated one of the commandments, she has borne false witness...bless her heart.

I guess she forgot about that whole Pope/Hitler youth thing.

What's the famous, sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people wonder if you're an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt.

It wasn't just Ratzinger. The Vatican, and the Pope at that time, had extenive ties and cooperation with the Nazi regime . So it's historically inaccurate to give Nazism as an example of something the church dissociated itself from because of being 'not within [its'] teachings.' The church certainly did not make such a distinction at the time, although some catholics might find it more convenient or comfortable now to pretend that it did.

Bill Perdue Bill Perdue | January 8, 2011 4:03 PM

Ratzinger was a bit more than just a member of the HitlerJugend. When drafted he was assigned to a Luftwaffe AA battery. He finally left the Nazi military in April 1945 just a few days before the Red Army forced the Nazi’s unconditional surrender.

Ratzinger's father was in fact a sworn, serving officer of both the Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei) and the German national Regular Police (Ordnungspolizei). He stayed in the force after Kristallnacht and after the Ordnungspolizei were absorbed by the Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei).

There is no record of any of the Ratzinger family helping people escape the dragnets for the camps. Ratzingers father must have witnessed much illegality by the Nazi's as a Gestapo officer, but he didn't lift a finger to help people. (A few hundred yards away from the Ratzingers' house, a family hid Hans Braxenthaler, a local resistance fighter who shot himself rather than be captured again.) The SS regularly searched local homes for resistance members, so the Ratzingers couldn’t have been unaware of what was going on.

The Ratzingers, father and son, may not have been camp guards but they were loyal participants in the sickness of Nazi society. Like many other Germans and Austrians they did nothing to stop the roundups for murder in the camps.

Ratzinger continues to provide asylum for accessories to child rape like Bernard Law of Boston in the precincts of Vatican City just as Pacelli provided a Vatican escape route for the SS fleeing war crimes indictments.

Bill Perdue Bill Perdue | January 8, 2011 3:11 AM

Roman cultist schools and those of other cults should be secualrized (without compensation) to prevent more waves of rape and abuse by priests and nuns.

All roman cultist priests, monks, nuns and bishops affilitated with neo-Nazi groups like Opus Dei should be expelled from the US.

Sie gehen können aufzuhalten mit der papenfuehrer in der vatikan.

The false part of the statement is that GSA's are not against Church Teaching. The Catechism says there shall be no discrimination against gay persons. The only way this could be against church teaching would be if it was an orgy club. Love one another as I have loved you was an actual DIRECTIVE, not a suggestion.

Whoooah whhoooah whooooah banned because its not in the teachings of the church! As someone that was raised Roman Catholic for 17 years the fact they are stating that makes me giggle. The pope was a Hitler youth that was not in the teachings but hey its there.

The teachings say to love they neighbor, and to are about love, honor, community, overcoming differences, unless I had the wrong bible and the wrong lectures at me for 17 years which would explain why I did silly things like ask why often and then get told its faith just belief.

Oh well this explains my senior year as I was called nazis for having lived in Germany while my dad served the US army most of my childhood and nazis again when I founded the school's GSA.